I miss the old PvP.

[Crit]

Old Videos don't really give a proper perspective. If anything warrior like Divine said were king of the hill. But only if they knew what they were doing.

What perspective am I supposed to have?!?!?! Every class had 40 buttons, buffs indicted bursts usually, every class had much more utility than now, machinist could one shot, monk could mongo one shot, dragoon had a meme stun(?!?!?!?!?), monk could one ilm buffs off nyahahahahahah, the skill gap was clear as day and ???perspective???

[Wintersandman]

machinist could one shot, monk could mongo one shot, dragoon had a meme stun(?!?!?!?!?),

Both of the first two of these statements are false. Neither class could One Shot anyone. The only thing that was a one shot was Melee LB and that was if you didn't have any vit accessories or didn't know how to get out of range. Due to the range requirement most Melee would stun then LB due to it but if the person had on a single vit accessory that one shot attempt was wasted. Lastly Dragoon had 2 stuns and even if they did have 3 they target would go immune after the 3rd. If anything PLD was the king of stuns and was great to lock down healers from getting out of control. But that was only effective if the dps were paying attention. The way stuns worked for PLD was 4 seconds, 2 seconds, 1 second, immune. MNK, DRG, NIN, and other classes who had stun abilities were not nearly as effective as they would either be 3 seconds, 2 seconds with the 2nd stun being 1 second.

One Ilm Punch actually had use and those 40 skills not all were used and each class had a unique feel. It was nice with MNK having One Ilm Punch as removing buffs from the enemy was a great way to counteract healers and didn't make the job OP at all as you could only do it once every 3 GCD's and even then at the TP cost it wasn't effective to sustain.

All jobs no matter how "OP" had some counters so in a way all jobs were more or less "OP" thus none of them were truly "OP" in the end.

This is exactly it. Every Job had a counter. As a healer warriors weren't a threat. As ninja, I just had to wait out Push Back and then there goes part of the warrior burst as any melee dps had greater burst than War itself. They could live in defiance and Inner Beast but that was only so effective for so long.

[Crit]

Both of the first two of these statements are false. Neither class could One Shot anyone. The only thing that was a one shot was Melee LB and that was if you didn't have any vit accessories or didn't know how to get out of range. Due to the range requirement most Melee would stun then LB due to it but if the person had on a single vit accessory that one shot attempt was wasted.

One Ilm Punch actually had use and those 40 skills not all were used and each class had a unique feel.

Somehow I don't feel like you have much high level experience, I've heard otherwise.

[Divinemights]

What perspective am I supposed to have?!?!?! Every class had 40 buttons, buffs indicted bursts usually, every class had much more utility than now, machinist could one shot, monk could mongo one shot, dragoon had a meme stun(?!?!?!?!?), monk could one ilm buffs off nyahahahahahah, the skill gap was clear as day and ???perspective???

Do you even have a clue on what you are talking about?
You are clearly have not played old system.
Under old system, every job has a form of damage reduction and it is quite impossible for any job to one shot other one.
Maybe redefine your idea of "one shot"? If you need more than 3 GCDs to kill someone it is not really one shot

[Crit]

Do you even have a clue on what you are talking about?
You are clearly have not played old system.
Under old system, every job has a form of damage reduction and it is quite impossible for any job to one shot other one.
Maybe redefine your idea of "one shot"? If you need more than 3 GCDs to kill someone it is not really one shot

You don't know what baiting and/or trading defensive cds is then to open up burst windows

[Divinemights]

You don't know what baiting and/or trading defensive cds is then to open up burst windows

Ever heard of distance control and CD management?

[Crit]

Ever heard of distance control and CD management?

It's easy to know something, not as easy to simply do it in the heat of battle, but yes hello common sense, carry me to top 10. Oh wait 4.x PvP nvm

[Divinemights]

It's easy to know something, not as easy to simply do it in the heat of battle, but yes hello common sense, carry me to top 10. Oh wait 4.x PvP nvm

Oh? Monk, Machinist, and Dragoon one shot people in 3.0 is common sense?

[Crit]

Oh? Monk, Machinist, and Dragoon one shot people in 3.0 is common sense?

No common sense in just pvping in general, come on use the brain!

[Wintersandman]

Somehow I don't feel like you have much high level experience, I've heard otherwise.

Here you go . I will let my matches speak for themselves.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...onthly/201704/

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...onthly/201705/