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    Player Snow_Princess's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Well my boyfriend decided to clear that up nicely but I will say it again...
    No you are incorrect. I said not to reply if you are going to be so blinded by disagreement with me to a point of being obstinate. How can you have a conversation if you don't actually read what I said?

    All I said was "at least we have the calamity savager instead of nothing" because despite it's flaws it does help us all save space. So to me yes, complain about no glam log I even said I agree with this; I want a glam log too, but you probably don't even know that because you are blinded by your idea that you -THINK- someone is disagreeing with you.

    I only said that we shoudn't complain about the salvager because at least we have it. We can and should ask for improvements and more options yes for sure, but don't be ungrateful for what we do have because this could happen....

    I mean would you rather have nothing? I'd like to see what would happen if tomorrow SE comes out and tells us all we have to rebuy everything from the calamity salavger if we want to keep those items because they are removing him and you have no other option anymore. Like I said it is better than having nothing until we get more and better options which I also want.



    Did you even read what he wrote? He clarified what I meant and you still don't understand?

    I mean seriously. I mentioned the salvager to help someone save space which is what this thread is about. I guess I will never mention the calamity salvager ever again because if I do I am somehow automatically against making a better system or against improvements. My bad.
    Why are you twisting around what I say and go off some tangent extreme? There is nothing wrong with telling someone about what the savager was, and a year ago? maybe less? I did not even know. The savger has all kinds of problems and it is CLOSE to having nothing at all as you possibly can get, same with the armour. It is basically "hidden" from view and it is anti-new player. Despite pointing this out AGAIN, you still did not comment on that, and the same REASON you had to explain it to someone here.

    It is far fetched to imply I should be grateful for a broken feature because "at least we have something" if you want to talk about blind, that is as well, blindly accepting what is given to you. ...
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    I am actually confused with this bit "I only said that we shouldn't complain about the savager because at least we have it" and you said you welcome a glam log... that means you fully accept it is not enough, thus you are not 100% satisfied with it. ... this goes with my point in the last few posts, you are basically defending your self people have no right to talk to you about this because of the catch 22 you created. Makes no sense.

    Also the savager has confusing menus, it really is not enough and barely over the line of having nothing, as someone else pointed out as well.

    I feel the need to point this out again
    Quote Originally Posted by SokiYagami View Post
    Yes, I do agree that having an option is a good thing and I do appreciate them for what's it worth. However, this shouldn't stop us from pushing to request for a better solution. Here's hoping it would arrive sooner than later. /pray

    Back on topic, OP and the other group should hakuna matata a little. I understand that you're trying to make your point but this is turning into simply throwing insults at one another. Can we just drop everything and agree that having a fully functional major QoL upgrades (like glamour log, tackle box, gardening box, etc) would benefit most, if not all players irregardless if they are experiencing any inventory management issues?
    Conversations like this is not helping the discussion on what needs to be addressed and what can be done to improve it. (I do not know what hakuna matata is exactly but I understand what is being requested)
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    Last edited by Snow_Princess; 10-18-2017 at 11:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    Why are you twisting around what I say and go off some tangent extreme? There is nothing wrong with telling someone about what the savager was, and a year ago? maybe less? I did not even know. The savger has all kinds of problems and it is CLOSE to having nothing at all as you possibly can get, same with the armour. It is basically "hidden" from view and it is anti-new player. Despite pointing this out AGAIN, you still did not comment on that, and the same REASON you had to explain it to someone here.
    So first of all the salvager is meant to replace items that can't be obtained again. That's one of it's original functions. People just use it to save space since it allows you to toss things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    It is far fetched to imply I should be grateful for a broken feature because "at least we have something" if you want to talk about blind, that is as well, blindly accepting what is given to you. ...
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    I am actually confused with this bit "I only said that we shouldn't complain about the savager because at least we have it" and you said you welcome a glam log... that means you fully accept it is not enough, thus you are not 100% satisfied with it. ... this goes with my point in the last few posts, you are basically defending your self people have no right to talk to you about this because of the catch 22 you created. Makes no sense.

    Also the savager has confusing menus, it really is not enough and barely over the line of having nothing, as someone else pointed out as well.
    Are you even reading anything? Where did she say you can't complain about the log. She didn't. She just mentioned that you can use it to free up space and that's it. Not that you can't complain about the log because it is there. Don't know where you're even getting that from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
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    So I looked at the calamity salvager last night, and can now go through all my gears that I have, and get rid of a whole lot of them....when I get the chance this weekend. Thank you for pointing that out to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    I am actually confused with this bit "I only said that we shouldn't complain about the savager because at least we have it" and you said you welcome a glam log... that means you fully accept it is not enough, thus you are not 100% satisfied with it. ... this goes with my point in the last few posts
    You are definitely confused and that is because you do not understand what I am saying.

    How can I be "blindly accepting what is given to me" when I actively said that "we can and should ask for improvements and more options"?

    I don't know why I have to repeat this again but -at least- the BASE of the salvager system is there instead of nothing. We can and should ask for improvements to it and even more options like glam log.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    We can and should ask for improvements and more options yes for sure
    You are driving people away who actually agree with your main idea just by not paying close attention or ignoring what is being said and trying to argue simply over misplaced assumptions. I never said I was 100% satisfied? So of course I want improvements. Just because the salvager helps me some doesn't somehow make me against improvements or a glam log and I keep explaining that to you. I am simply grateful for having -something- that helps a bit instead of -nothing- at all while we campaign for more improvements to glamour and inventory.

    I seriously do not know how to be more clear of my opinions here.

    The reason this conversation started is because you keep throwing the same thing at me like "you must be against improvements because you mentioned the salvager and/or appreciate it" or telling me "just because we have it doesn't mean we can't ask for improvements to it"

    I told you multiple times you were wrong about me and misunderstanding what I was saying and that I agree that I want improvements and also that we should ask for improvements, but you still seem to think I am against improvements just because I said at least the salvager exists.

    Again I am not somehow against improvements just because I mentioned the salvager so you are arguing with me for literally no reason.

    You just keep telling me the same incorrect assumption about my stance no matter how many times I correct you. /shrug

    You either aren't reading or aren't understanding what I am saying so might as well just end it here.



    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    So I looked at the calamity salvager last night, and can now go through all my gears that I have, and get rid of a whole lot of them....when I get the chance this weekend. Thank you for pointing that out to me.
    You're welcome. I am glad it is helping you. I know it has helped me a lot for saving space as well.
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    Last edited by Miste; 10-19-2017 at 12:45 AM.