Inventory issues still exist. Why keep adding gear to the game and not room? Glam log

[Miste]

an extreme case of somebody who buys 6 retainers

OP did you really fill up 6 retainers?

I have only three retainers and while I am quite full I am still managing...I have all jobs 60+ (9 of them are at 70 and still working on the rest), all crafters and gatherers at 70 as well.

I honestly don't know how you can have double the space that I have and still run out.

I mean I have to do some spring cleaning once in awhile and get rid of things I find I probably don't need to keep, but I have managed with 2-3 retainers since launch.

[Snow_Princess]

OP did you really fill up 6 retainers?

I have only three retainers and while I am quite full I am still managing...I have all jobs 60+ (9 of them are at 70 and still working on the rest), all crafters and gatherers at 70 as well.

I honestly don't know how you can have double the space that I have and still run out.

I mean I have to do some spring cleaning once in awhile and get rid of things I find I probably don't need to keep, but I have managed with 2-3 retainers since launch.

I said 8 not 6.
I am sick of being full all the time because I have glam sets and crafting mats that I am consistently using and going though. The thing is I do not "horde" or even craft everything on the map, just what seems popular at the time. I do have something to show for my hard work though

On one of the most popular servers on top of things. So no, I do not horde. I use my items and glams.

I was an omnicrafter in 3.x and never needed more then two retainers. I'd gather and craft everything myself. Also if you're going to make an argument about inventory the number of steps in a craft is irrelevant. You only need at most 5 finished ingredients, maybe 7 per craft and if you're turning in 2 or 5 finished products at a time you still don't need 8 retainers worth of materials if you manage right. If you're going to use my Lodestone against me don't leave an opening for counterattack, Princess.

You can be an "omi crafter" and not use it much..... I knew plently like that.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I said 8 not 6.
I am sick of being full all the time because I have glam sets and crafting mats that I am consistently using and going though. The thing is I do not "horde" or even craft everything on the map, just what seems popular at the time.



You can be an "omi crafter" and not use it much..... I knew plently like that.

And you can be a hardcore crafter without needing 8 retainers worth of space, I know plenty who do that. As well as save glamours.

[Snow_Princess]

And you can be a hardcore crafter without needing 8 retainers worth of space, I know plenty who do that. As well as save glamours.

Know plenty? really? I was not aware there was more then 1-5 people like that per server.

[Skivvy]

And you can be a hardcore crafter without needing 8 retainers worth of space, I know plenty who do that. As well as save glamours.

People manage because they have to. I imagine those people would happily take more inventory space if it was implemented. I personally don’t buy extra retainers as I feel this should be something that’s included - renting inventory space is bad.

[hellmach]

You can be an "omi crafter" and not use it much..... I knew plently like that.

Why would I mention it if it wasn't relevant? Now you're just being a jerk.

[Claviusnex]

No matter how many mattresses you put down a princess will always feel a pea.

[ElHeggunte]

Even if SE were to double our inventory tomorrow, I'm fairly certain that most of the people who whine about lack of space will simply fill that up with more junk and come back to whine some more. I craft, I gather, and I'm in the gradual process of leveling all of my combat classes. I have four retainers and zero issues with inventory because I do monthly purges and get rid of stuff that I can easily reobtain should I want it.

[Skivvy]

I have four retainers and zero issues with inventory because I do monthly purges and get rid of stuff that I can easily reobtain should I want it.

This type of thinking gets hard to defend when you have played games that have all-inclusive material banks and a glamour log. Why should people have to purge / refarm and rent additional retainers just to cope?. Stop making excuses for the game’s shortcomings.

[Snow_Princess]

Why would I mention it if it wasn't relevant? Now you're just being a jerk.

You know, I had to calm down a bit to think of a way to give a more appropriate reply. First off you did not answer my WHEN you where an "omicrafter" because when you where changes things, and i figured out I could just reply to all the situations to show why SE needs to make great fixes to our item system.

I was an omnicrafter in 3.x and never needed more then two retainers. I'd gather and craft everything myself. Also if you're going to make an argument about inventory the number of steps in a craft is irrelevant. You only need at most 5 finished ingredients, maybe 7 per craft and if you're turning in 2 or 5 finished products at a time you still don't need 8 retainers worth of materials if you manage right. If you're going to use my Lodestone against me don't leave an opening for counterattack, Princess.

OP doesn't want to admit they're a hoarder. You're what statisticians call an outlier, an extreme case of somebody who buys 6 retainers and still needs a ton of space. Your extreme hoarding, as well as anyone else, isn't going to justify the cost of reorganizing the entire inventory system just because you can't manage your inventory. The only thing I can agree with is either implement a WoWesque transmog system or let us store Mogstation and special deal items in the Armoire which is really underutilized at the moment.

So you start off basically agreeing what needs to be changed and what would fix my problem. The problem with saying "give us a glam log" is SE refuses saying server limitations. If they have server limitations this means one thing, REMOVE ITEMS.

Now lets go into why you do not have inventory problems being an "omicrafter" in HW. First off if you are talking about being a 3.4 omnicrafter, this means you need 3 characters, some chose to use 4, to keep crafting off their battle class character. I did not want to do either because doing that much MSQ is a headache. So basically another idea to throw out that will help inventory is to make the game alt friendly.

So 3 characters give you 6 retainers (smallest amount required to be an omicrafter) with a 150 slot bank since your alts should be in a private FC, every one I seen, even gatherbots, have their own FC. This allows you to trade items easier to your alts, I/E the alch specialist sending stat potions to the rest to craft. This means you have an effective 450 more slots then having 6 retainers, something that was better then having 8 (175+175 =350) So a true omicrafter with 3 characters without paying for retainers has more slots then a solo character paying for 8, you do not see this as unfair? Just because I cannot bare to repeat doing the MSQ 2 more times I have to pay exploitation money?

The second situation would be being a solo true omicrafter late in HW when they took the restrictions off. In this case it is still an invalid claim since stuff was not in demand at that point, and you would not know what it is like to craft those kind of crafts in high volume and that requires a lot of space. (I suspect you fit here, since the first situation tends to reflect a personality of someone to have all 70 in 5 days of SB 4.0)

People should not be calling me a hoarder when the game is poorly supports all the item bloat it gives you and people wonder why I question if people claiming they have no room troubles if they really have experience with the game, crafting or truly use the glam system? If you are going to insult someone, you better be prepared for a counter or simply expecting the person asking you why you are saying such things.