Please remove timers from FATEs and put tomestone rewards in them

[Kragon]

Its extremely annoying. Most of the FATEs that I do fails because of this timer. For people that says that they won't work without the timers: Check out the World quest system in WoW. In WoW the world feels much more alive and active cuz of the World quests... I see people everywhere. But in FFXIV the world feels very empty. Here people are just queuing for dungeons or trials inside their houses or main cities. Please SE do something about the open world... it feels very empty and will leave a bad impression to new players.

[FoxyAreku]

World quests are awful no thank you.

I don't see a problem in having fates reward 2 or 3 tomestones per clear though. Give people some more options on how they wish to cap.

[TheMax1087]

Fates not having timers wouldn't work. There's a limit to how many fates can be active at once, some fates share spawn locations, and there are a lot of fates that either require another be finished or fail(or in the case of the churning mists superfate, 6 others) to start or can't be active while another specific fate is up.

[Krotoan]

What fates are you failing because of time? I failed things because I got to them late, but it's pretty rare to find one that just DOESN'T have enough time.

[Kragon]

Fates not having timers wouldn't work. There's a limit to how many fates can be active at once, some fates share spawn locations, and there are a lot of fates that either require another be finished or fail(or in the case of the churning mists superfate, 6 others) to start or can't be active while another specific fate is up.

As I said check out the World quest system. They are very similar... the only difference is that World quest don't have timers and reward artifact power and endgame gear whereas FATEs have timers and offer no rewards so nobody does them. And as you said that some FATEs need to be completed for another to spawn its the same with World quests... they need to be done for new ones to pop up in the map.

[Lilseph]

What FATEs are you doing? You can solo pretty much all of them within 4 or 6 minutes with your Chocobo companion. If FATEs got stronger because people are doing them, join them or follow them.

[KaivaC]

'WoW did this, and I liked it, therefore FFXIV must do this thing, too'

Except this isn't WoW. By saying that you feel WoW didn't something better, in your opinion, then by your logic, our GCD (which is typically a common complaint from WoW players) would be reduced...which would just make the game feel really different. And not necessarily in a good way. Look, a lot of people don't like FATEs as they are. Removing the timers won't make them better. Especially since, as mentioned above, there are some FATEs out there that are part of a chain of them. It would be a bad idea. Say for example, the Shroud. Some sprouts under level 30 are fighting there, and then Odin decides to spawn.

I do, however, agree about tomestones. Maybe 8 creation tomestones or something like that, or better rewards based on area and level. Grinding FATEs for exp is...not fun anymore, to be honest.

[Kragon]

What FATEs are you doing? You can solo pretty much all of them within 4 or 6 minutes with your Chocobo companion. If FATEs got stronger because people are doing them, join them or follow them.

Its not about soloing FATEs. Its about their design structure and rewards. Right now nobody does them because they don't provide any worthwhile rewards... thats why the open world feels very empty. Whereas in WoW all the World quests reward endgame gear or artifact power so all the players are doing them and the world in that game feels much more alive and populated. Whenever we play an mmorpg we should be seeing other people in the open world... if not then the game is doing something wrong.

[Joe777]

What you are asking for completely defeats the purpose of Full Active Time Events. If they remove the timer they may as well revamp the entire FATE system. Yes it is true FATEs do not offer much, but Stormblood brought EXP Bonus to FATEs, which was a step in the right direction I suppose. If the issue here is Lv70s not needing to do FATEs then yeah replacing the XP reward with something like tomestones is more logical. Also bear in mind that the lack of open world presence is also due in major part by instanced content.

[Krotoan]

Better rewards and making them relevant I understand.. but removing timers I don't. Please explain?