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    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    There is no good reason to add a 3rd dps.... 2 dps already can mow down everything in dungeons with little effort... dungeon wipes as is come from tanks pulling more than a healer can heal... I have never been in any light duty where one dps was needed over another so class balance is a non issue...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    There is no good reason to add a 3rd dps....
    Reduction in dps queue times, found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    tanks pulling more than a healer can heal....
    This is why they put in artificial blocks, there are very few pulls nowadays a healer cannot heal through unless they are undergeared or just plain underskilled. Whoops happen but if you are constantly having issues of not being able to heal through pulls it doesn't sound like a tank issue. 99.9% of dungeons I pug have large to maximum pulls which the healers handle with ease, sometimes even dpsing during. If it is a skill or gear issue, talk to your tank and request smaller pulls, read your tool tips and learn how to utilize your abilities instead of placing blame on someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    There is no good reason to add a 3rd dps....
    Do you think it's acceptable for this game to waste 30 minutes of your time before being able to enter an instance? Because I don't. YoshiP would have addressed this already if he valued his customers' time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    Do you think it's acceptable for this game to waste 30 minutes of your time before being able to enter an instance? Because I don't. YoshiP would have addressed this already if he valued his customers' time.
    Make friends with people and that problem ceases to exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Make friends with people and that problem ceases to exist.
    That's a workaround and not a solution to the underlying problem. What exactly is it you're advocating there? No friend / FC mate wants to run leveling at the moment, so just don't bother leveling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    You do realize that the shorter dps queue mentality will then draw even more people to queue as a dps... half the reason people queue as tank and healer is for the shorter queues... so it will just balance back out to longer dps times again but with fewer tanks and healers
    That's not entirely true as evidenced by the precedence of content that includes more DPS players. However, it completely didn't help that SE allowed for materia removal on gear which undercut the incentive for people to be the adventurer in need for leveling roulette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    That's a workaround and not a solution to the underlying problem. What exactly is it you're advocating there? No friend / FC mate wants to run leveling at the moment, so just don't bother leveling?
    There is no solution to the problem of there being an overabundance of dps players. Everything suggested is a "workaround." Your friends dont wanna do leveling roulette right now? Wait til later or queue solo, not that hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    There is no solution to the problem of there being an overabundance of dps players. Everything suggested is a "workaround." Your friends dont wanna do leveling roulette right now? Wait til later or queue solo, not that hard.
    You know that "there is no solution" is blatantly false when it comes to reducing queue times, so I don't think there's anything to be gained in further discussion when you have no imagination for how a developer could solve a basic problem such as this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    You know that "there is no solution" is blatantly false when it comes to reducing queue times, so I don't think there's anything to be gained in further discussion when you have no imagination for how a developer could solve a basic problem such as this.
    /eyeroll
    theres no reasonable solution to reducing dps queue times. 3 dps per dungeon is not going to reduce queue time by any substantial amount and most people would rather dev time go to new content rather than rebalancing old dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Make friends with people and that problem ceases to exist.
    Except it doesn't, just like poverty doesn't stop existing just because you marry a rich guy. Even if every DPS were to make friends with a tank/healer, there would still be a massive overhead of DPS left out and the tanks/healers would have to pull overtime to compensate, because the numbers simply don't add up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Except it doesn't, just like poverty doesn't stop existing just because you marry a rich guy. Even if every DPS were to make friends with a tank/healer, there would still be a massive overhead of DPS left out and the tanks/healers would have to pull overtime to compensate, because the numbers simply don't add up.
    Poverty is solved however by proper payment to workers, and redistribution of wealth to systems that need it among other things. And, as foolish as comparing real world economics to queue times in a video games is, theres no way to "redistribute" time, so your analogy falls flat.
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