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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylla View Post
    No. Let me stop you right there. What in your right mind make you believe that a FC is more deserving of a L or M house over a single person? Please explain your reasoning, seriously.
    Ok. Well it takes 4 ppl to start an FC, 4 ppl to work the workstation. So why do people think 1 person owning an FC/FC house is working as intended.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    They specifically said they weren't releasing details to avoid speculation. Let's wait and see, and if it's a poor solution then we can criticize.
    Yes, but my point is that more wards is not the answer, which is the core of what the statement is implying. They could throw in a hundred new wards in every area and it still wouldn't solve the problem... and even the problem itself is not clear to most people (I'd even guess it's not clear to the devs). While people want housing in general, many now (and even more in the future) do not want a Small. Many are okay with settling on a Medium. However, no matter what status you are in financially, your real goal is a Large. Supply, even with hundreds of wards, is not going to be met with a simple bandage fix of adding wards to fix the face problem of "not enough houses" (unless it ended up being in the thousands or infinite).

    Of course, it is possible that they are going to go that direction with 4.2. I do feel though that the bigger problem needs to be addressed in order to actually make an impact on the generic concern of "not enough houses." I would imagine a major shift to that direction wouldn't be kept underwraps so close to the deadline (a few months away). Likewise, I'd imagine that wouldn't be a fix they can complete so quickly, unless it were already worked on. I sincerely do hope that my own downer perspective isn't going to be right, but the devs aren't exactly reliable in doing what needs to be done lol.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    lots of speculation
    and again.. we don't know. I personally am aware everyone who wants a house isn't going to get one if they add a limited amount of wards. I get that part very well. Who knows what they've been working on. Maybe they've been working towards instanced housing this whole time and shirogane was just another bandaid to keep people "happy" and it failed miserably and now they have decided to push up infini-housing to 4.2 and some poor team of devs is now on crunch time because everyone lost their minds?


    again.. speculation.


    negative or positive? Wait and see. Condemning without actually knowing what they're doing seems a bit overkill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade View Post
    "To prevent speculation, we will refrain from releasing information until absolutely necessary" - the epitome of contradiction in a sentence.
    Sort of, but in a platform where you deal with a lot of immature people, and in the context that at the point of writing, he is not sure what they can actually achieve, I dont find the statement too far out there.
    For example, he could of said, we will be working on trying to deliver many more wards, but realistcally, that may be out of the question and not possible. So if he did say that then said no dice a few weeks later, the pitchforks would be out and he would be cried down as a liar that promised more wards. This community is like that, they display it here every single day.
    Its a shame he cant speak more openly and candidly, but as history has forever shown us, the plebs dont play nice, so this type of dialog is the norm for people in his position.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    solo-player FCs can also be barred from owning Large plots or even any plots at all.


    the idea was so lame.. I have to put another meme
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    you people need to get over it. it used to be that only FC can buy houses... so people started these one man FC.. that's when SE decided it is better to open it up to everyone instead.

    if you are on a overly populated server... move.. it's virtual MMO.. please don't be like "but this is my home" and cry about the lack of housing.. ever lived in big city like NYC or Seattle? homeless homies yo.

    on the other hand.. SE did not hold up their promise on adding more wand as the housing fills up. that's the main issue...also.. where's Ishgard housing?

    2.x has 3 nations has 2160 plots.
    3.x has 1 nation and 0 plots
    4.x has 1 nation and 720 plots.

    I understand they want to do this by nation... but I think each expansion should have gotten at least additional 2160 plots, it's not like the expansion costs less than the original game.
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    Inventory UI improvement
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    Well we don't really know that. More wards is all we know they're going to do. Any changes to acquisition put in place, as per what was stated, still means it's just wards... a finite supply that does not even dent the actual demand.
    Then you didn't actually read the post. It's stated that, "we will be working to bolster our servers" also "and we will be making an announcement outlining the number of new wards and how they will be sold after reviewing said feedback". So yes there will be more than just new wards.
    Beyond that, everything else is just stuff people are making up to keep the drama going. None of us know what, exactly, they are going to do beyond what was said in that post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post

    if you are on a overly populated server... move.. it's virtual MMO.. please don't be like "but this is my home"


    I can't even.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Ok. Well it takes 4 ppl to start an FC, 4 ppl to work the workstation. So why do people think 1 person owning an FC/FC house is working as intended.
    Because it also functions as personal housing. Otherwise people wouldn't be able to buy property without being in an FC. I wouldn't have a house, nor some of my friends and FC mates. The work stations are a bonus feature for those that buy the property as an FC estate.
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    I still want my ranch with some acreage and no neighbors. :-(

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    you people need to get over it. it used to be that only FC can buy houses... so people started these one man FC.. that's when SE decided it is better to open it up to everyone instead.
    From all the early comments on player housing prior to implementation, I'm still convinced they were originally pursuing an entirely separate system from FC housing, then realized it was going to be too much work, and essentially decided to "flip the switch" to just let individuals buy them instead and save themselves some work.
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