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  1. #1
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    KarinaTyrsdottir's Avatar
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    Karina Tyrsdottir
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    Mateus
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    I am so, so tired...

    ...of this perpetual, 10-day cycle of disappointment. Every 10 days I lose. Every 10 days I set the game down for 24-48 hours because I just don't have any drive or desire to play it. Every 10 days I'm told "just move to another server," or "just keep trying, you'll get it," or someone inevitably gets on the forums to tell the people who are upset that they lose over and over and over and over and over that they're somehow wrong for being upset by it.

    I'm just tired of this game making me want to quit playing it every 10 days strictly, and for no other reason than, because I am just unlucky.

    I hope they change it. I don't know how many more 10-day cycles I can make it through.
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    Akkarin's Avatar
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    Akkarin Del'von
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    Echo this.

    There's clear problems that the community have communicated time and time again but SE do nothing - time and time again. I'm with you. I'm tired of doing this over and over again. The last 4 windows have been lost to alt-FCs that I have no doubt will be sold at some later time. It's an absolute joke. It's totally demoralising. Especially since those FCs are all alts which means they can bid in FC wards instead of private. So essentially private buyers with a FC full of alts move into FC wards. It's a complete and utter shambles.

    Am I mad? Yes, yes I am.
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    Yuniko's Avatar
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    Ahri Izumi
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KarinaTyrsdottir View Post
    ...of this perpetual, 10-day cycle of disappointment. Every 10 days I lose. Every 10 days I set the game down for 24-48 hours because I just don't have any drive or desire to play it. Every 10 days I'm told "just move to another server," or "just keep trying, you'll get it," or someone inevitably gets on the forums to tell the people who are upset that they lose over and over and over and over and over that they're somehow wrong for being upset by it.

    I'm just tired of this game making me want to quit playing it every 10 days strictly, and for no other reason than, because I am just unlucky.

    I hope they change it. I don't know how many more 10-day cycles I can make it through.


    I've lost 76 houses now. From the introduction to now. and i got a small i've lived in for... 4ish years. or so.
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    A hope is that bright light burning within each and everyone of us!

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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarinaTyrsdottir View Post
    ...of this perpetual, 10-day cycle of disappointment. Every 10 days I lose. Every 10 days I set the game down for 24-48 hours because I just don't have any drive or desire to play it. Every 10 days I'm told "just move to another server," or "just keep trying, you'll get it," or someone inevitably gets on the forums to tell the people who are upset that they lose over and over and over and over and over that they're somehow wrong for being upset by it.

    I'm just tired of this game making me want to quit playing it every 10 days strictly, and for no other reason than, because I am just unlucky.

    I hope they change it. I don't know how many more 10-day cycles I can make it through.
    People telling you to change server or datacenter are just realistic because nothing is changing and is going to change, at least for over a year until 7.0 releases, there wont be any new ward releases until then at the earliest.

    The same people telling you to move are doing it because they know and I'm pretty sure most people know that there will be nothing done to fix this situation, it will be 9 days cycle after 9 days cycle until eventually there is nothing left and that's it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akkarin View Post
    Echo this.

    There's clear problems that the community have communicated time and time again but SE do nothing - time and time again. I'm with you. I'm tired of doing this over and over again. The last 4 windows have been lost to alt-FCs that I have no doubt will be sold at some later time. It's an absolute joke. It's totally demoralising. Especially since those FCs are all alts which means they can bid in FC wards instead of private. So essentially private buyers with a FC full of alts move into FC wards. It's a complete and utter shambles.

    Am I mad? Yes, yes I am.
    Are we really back to shell fc = RMT or selling the houses ? Really ?
    (15)

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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    How would you like them to 'change it' exactly?
    And what are you looking for, any house, or one specific plot?
    (serious questions, not trying to 'catch you out' or anything, at least not the first one)

    Unfortunately, server overpopulation is a very real issue. Not just because of housing, but also for basic game performance issues, like the 6 hour log in queues on an expansion launch.
    They're constantly adding more housing wards, giving us 9,000 plots per world (and 27,000 empty apartments) currently.
    There should be on average around 20,000 active players per world, not all of whom will even want a house, but differences in server population, and demographics, means that the demand for houses can range from less than the 9,000 plots, to well above 30,000.
    By demographics, I of course mean Crystal. The home of RP, where everyone wants a Mansion for their RP club.

    This is of course the reason why 'moving to another server' is the only real solution, because it is the cause of the problem.
    Throwing new housing wards up year on year is treating the symptom. New servers, and getting players onto those new servers, is treating the cause.

    It's also strange to see so many players who don't even have an apartment. It's right there, it's not limited in any way because the supply vastly outweighs the demand.
    The biggest thing they could do would be to upgrade the apartment system. Allow players to expand the size of their apartment to a comparable size to the interiors of houses. This gives players who merely want to decorate an interior a viable alternative to a house plot. Leaving the plots for those who desperately want a garden everyone else can see.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 02-08-2023 at 03:09 AM.

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    Kaiproberts's Avatar
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    Kali Nasha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    People telling you to change server or datacenter are just realistic because nothing is changing and is going to change, at least for over a year until 7.0 releases, there wont be any new ward releases until then at the earliest.

    The same people telling you to move are doing it because they know and I'm pretty sure most people know that there will be nothing done to fix this situation, it will be 9 days cycle after 9 days cycle until eventually there is nothing left and that's it.



    Are we really back to shell fc = RMT or selling the houses ? Really ?
    I mean, yeah. Go look at the housing market discord. EVERY large sells for 1bil MINIMUM now. 1 Billion Gil. A billion. Housing is absolutely borked just like in real life. It shouldn't be this way but here we are.
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    Aki M'njor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiproberts View Post
    I mean, yeah. Go look at the housing market discord. EVERY large sells for 1bil MINIMUM now. 1 Billion Gil. A billion. Housing is absolutely borked just like in real life. It shouldn't be this way but here we are.
    How can you sell a home with the lottery? Especially a large.
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    Kali Nasha
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    How would you like them to 'change it' exactly?
    And what are you looking for, any house, or one specific plot?
    (serious questions, not trying to 'catch you out' or anything, at least not the first one)

    Unfortunately, server overpopulation is a very real issue. Not just because of housing, but also for basic game performance issues, like the 6 hour log in queues on an expansion launch.
    They're constantly adding more housing wards, giving us 9,000 plots per world (and 27,000 empty apartments) currently.
    There should be on average around 20,000 active players per world, not all of whom will even want a house, but differences in server population, and demographics, means that the demand for houses can range from less than the 9,000 plots, to well above 30,000.
    By demographics, I of course mean Crystal. The home of RP, where everyone wants a Mansion for their RP club.

    This is of course the reason why 'moving to another server' is the only real solution, because it is the cause of the problem.
    Throwing new housing wards up year on year is treating the symptom. New servers, and getting players onto those new servers, is treating the cause.

    It's also strange to see so many players who don't even have an apartment. It's right there, it's not limited in any way because the supply vastly outweighs the demand.
    The biggest thing they could do would be to upgrade the apartment system. Allow players to expand the size of their apartment to a comparable size to the interiors of houses. This gives players who merely want to decorate an interior a viable alternative to a house plot. Leaving the plots for those who desperately want a garden everyone else can see.
    No. Not this at all. The reason some of us play FF is for the unique housing situation. I don't play the game for any other reason. Every other game that has housing has an instanced version where everyone enters their house from the same place; no one who plays for housing in this game wants that. We enjoy having neighborhoods, that's the point. We all just want larges too. Larges offer a unique vertical floor plan for building in. I would love my medium if I could get rid of the floor on the 2nd floor just like an open large floorlplan. Get out of here with the apartment gatekeeping bs. Until they make more larges for personal use until we can all get one, expect constant uproar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlouchyBard View Post
    How can you sell a home with the lottery? Especially a large.
    You can sell FC's with a house attached. It's a 30 day waiting period but it's the only way now. It's partly why housing is so absolutely borked to begin with.
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    I WON!!!

    Housing crisis is over now.
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