Thread: In Regard to Housing in Patch 4.1

Heres my idea on how the wards should be added and sold

50 wards are gonna be released in each city

For the first hour ..
1-Wards 1-10 FC's with out a house only
2-Wards 11-20 FC transfer only
3-Wards 21-30 Players with out a house
4-Wards 31-40 Players transfering there house
5-Wards 41-50 free for all
After the first hour all wards become free for all

Keep in that thats each city so thats 12,000 plots (2,400 in each of the 5 restrctions)

Naoki Yoshida is heading to London for special autograph and Q & A session for people who are selected. Perhaps people can go ask him directly?

My housing solution:

1) Return all money and items to all players and reset all plots.
2) Make FC-Wards (better for Gaming) and Player-Wards (better for RPing)
All housing limited to one house/per account.
FC-Housing: Raise an FC's Level up, get an option to buy an FC-House using FC points/money, etc (Internal FC Function) //Now all FC's have a housing option without it being centered on player.
3) Have the Data-Centers run Dynamically-Allocated Housing Server Clusters for all worlds that are in the Data Center. (Housing availability for all)

Why?
Fairness. FC-House availability should have always been through the panel, and not through an individual player. Other games have it right. Individual Player room for housing, Entire Guild Halls for Guilds to reflect their size. FCs should have something to reflect their large size beyond a house!

Originally Posted by Stabby-Chan

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There are immediate issues with this proposed solution.

1) This penalizes the vast majority of people who did not buy more than one plot. For example, I would lose the plot I worked for two months to acquire. I have done nothing to deserve this, so it would be unfair.
2) There's a real concern about server resources being squandered with parallel wards being opened. The more wards added, the more server resources used. Can you explain how your solution would avoid this issue?
3) Now there's a pressing, perhaps fatal concern. Housing for all on a game with 10 million registered users would be ENORMOUSLY expensive, and that money would have to come from somewhere. Do you have an idea of a dollar figure on this?


Thank you for allowing me to state my concerns with your proposal. I look forward to your reply.

Originally Posted by Alleo

We do not have 10 million people playing the game right now. Probably not even 1 million of active players. Also other games can do that fine. The problem in this one are the wards themselves. Since they are always existing even if nobody is in there, they eat quite the resources. Having completely instanced houses would take away from that quite a lot and should make it possible for everyone owning a house (heck even owning one in each zone).

If you would be so kind as to quantify your response with some hard data, I'd sincerely appreciate it. Specifically, I need an accurate count of daily active players, a list of some "other games" that can "do that fine", and an understanding of how fully instanced housing can populate for people who don't own said house, yet still have the permission to use it, when the owner is not online. Thanks in advance!

Originally Posted by Calteru

If you would be so kind as to quantify your response with some hard data, I'd sincerely appreciate it. Specifically, I need an accurate count of daily active players, a list of some "other games" that can "do that fine", and an understanding of how fully instanced housing can populate for people who don't own said house, yet still have the permission to use it, when the owner is not online. Thanks in advance!

FFXIV census as of September shows about 10-25 k of active players per server. They have a website.

Originally Posted by Abelfei

FFXIV census as of September shows about 10-25 k of active players per server. They have a website.

Unofficial, but that's one question sort-of answered. At least we have some kind of datapoint to start with.

Now. What's the cost per-person in terms of bandwidth usage? Adding more stuff will add to bandwidth. We'll also need some kind of idea of how the server would respond to having fully instanced housing.

Before suggesting something, it would save a lot of time and effort if we had some idea of how a proposed solution would WORK.

Also missing: The list of "other games" doing this, and some kind of idea of how FI housing would populate for people authed to used the property but not owning it themselves. (This in particular is crucial information. If we're looking at, say, how SWTOR does this, we will likely run into budget issues. SWTOR "solved" theirs by taking from content development. I don't know if that'd be viable here.)

Originally Posted by Alleo

Why is that in any way a good solution? :/ All that it does is taking away all the work that people did with their houses (getting rid of them would also mean that every single FC ship would be destroyed..) and just start with the exact same problem again..only that you will have lots and lots of very pissed off customers too..I will say it right here, if they ever would do something like that I would just quit the game.

Resetting housing is a ludicrous suggestion. Punishing the entire housing community because of the actions of a few is a great way to lose subscriptions. It's one thing to reduce the amount of houses an account can have, it's another thing altogether to completely erase all trace of ownership on every house when it's possible the player did absolutely nothing that could be viewed as rule breaking, an exploit or taking advantage of an oversight. All this would achieve is an immensely upgraded version of the disastrous Shirogane launch, and a huge amount of cancelled subscriptions. The only thing worse than this is completely taking housing out of the game.

However that player did make one excellent point:

Originally Posted by Esrain

Outdoor furnishing should be usable indoors, in case you decide to opt in for an apartment instead.

I won't deny it would look very strange, but if this means apartment owners could finally crossplant, then I'm all for it.