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    Player
    Blackwolf1985's Avatar
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    Will Blackwolf
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Hi Yoshi-P !

    Thank you very much for this quick answers and the communication you keep with all the community, this is really great to saw that your'e team and you still listen to players and try to fix issues with interest.

    Just continue like that, we'll continue to support this game and the personn who works on it for our pleasure. (I enjoy this patch between).

    Have a nice day.

    Regards, o/
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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxyn View Post
    EDIT: OH! I also remember seeing this idea and it was a really good one: 9. After a plot goes up for sale there is a window of time where players can choose to buy a chance at obtaining the plot (this is the cost of the plot, and they can only do this for one plot at a time), possibly a limit on how many players can do this (At least 10, I would suggest) = At the end of the timer, a player is chosen at random and they get the plot, with all other players getting their gil back. This could just be added in the script of the devaluation timer - At the time of the plot dropping in price, a player is chosen from the ones who put the money down at the previous price. If there is only one player who put the money down, they get the plot. If no player has, the plot devalues. This would be making it totally down to luck - which would make it a lot more fair to everyone and heavily prevent people owning multiple houses, especially since the players who genuinely want and don\\'t own a plot outnumber those who do by a large amount.

    10. Also the idea of making plots go on sale a few hours after the servers launch so everyone has time to log in is also a very good suggestion, as that would make it more a matter of speed and luck also and help bypass launcher errors/slow download times/server and connection issues/queues. How would this work? Everyone is kicked out of the housing wards so everyone gets the same start from the entrance when the wards unlock at the designated time.

    If you\\'ve actually read this, thank you for it and again I hope some of these suggestions are helpful.
    The problem there is if you put money into one plots lotto and another plot becomes available. You can\\'t also put money into that. Which then means if you don\\'t win the first one you\\'ve ultimately lost on both or all of them if there\\'s several available. It really doesn\\'t help any one.

    As for 10. Kicking everyone out of the wards so they all be true same start is also never going to work. It\\'s not going to be fair because everyone has different load times. I run the game on my laptop with super fast ssd so I nearly always load into zones that much faster than many of my friends.

    Even doing canals. One of my party can teleport I\\'ll accept that port load in get on my mount and already be flying towards the flagged coordinates before anyone else has even zoned in. That would give me a massive advantage in housing. In truth it\\'s probably why I snagged my large house so easily. Even when I was 900 in the queue.

    Then you have ps4 players who also typically have slightly longer load times. So kicking everyone out would actually make things worse for a lot of players and put them at even more of a disadvantage.
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    Luxy Facecrusher
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    The problem there is if you put money into one plots lotto and another plot becomes available. You can\\'t also put money into that. Which then means if you don\\'t win the first one you\\'ve ultimately lost on both or all of them if there\\'s several available. It really doesn\\'t help any one.

    As for 10. Kicking everyone out of the wards so they all be true same start is also never going to work. It\\'s not going to be fair because everyone has different load times. I run the game on my laptop with super fast ssd so I nearly always load into zones that much faster than many of my friends.

    Even doing canals. One of my party can teleport I\\'ll accept that port load in get on my mount and already be flying towards the flagged coordinates before anyone else has even zoned in. That would give me a massive advantage in housing. In truth it\\'s probably why I snagged my large house so easily. Even when I was 900 in the queue.

    Then you have ps4 players who also typically have slightly longer load times. So kicking everyone out would actually make things worse for a lot of players and put them at even more of a disadvantage.
    In regards to point number 9, yes - but EVERYONE has that same problem. It's fair and it prevents the players with more gil to try get multiple houses as that favours the rich. Like I said, it'd be all about luck. Sure that might not be preferable to your guaranteed chance but that's one way of making getting housing lucky. The point being no one has an advantage on anyone else, no matter what. You get lucky or you don't.

    And for point number 10, yeah it will work, because it helps things be more fair still. It's an improvement, isn't it? Just because something is an improvement and not an all encompassing fix doesn't mean it doesn't work - it'd work as intended. It'd help make things a BIT more fair - I know it can't do it completely. It helps at least remove the problem of the launcher errors, queues, slow download times, connection errors, etc - there will always be people with faster load times, you can't handle that in any way at all, so that's moot. And just because you have a faster connection than me doesn't mean you won't mess up your route or lose your house to someone with an even faster connection than you while I go for a less contended plot with my worse connection. (The skill/competition/luck of the race!) It's more down to luck there too - all it's about is leveling the playing field some, not completely.
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    Last edited by Luxyn; 10-12-2017 at 09:32 PM.

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    Skeksis Poloma
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 90
    Thank you Yoshi-P. Please make it so FCs can get a house before individuals for a short time. That would be a big help.
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    Amon Kujaku
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    I love you. Thank you so much for responding. (: I'm sorry, you must be tired and stressed. /pets
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    Ara Kirani
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 70
    As for solutions...

    Airships! Instanced airships! Everyone could get one, or every FC could get one, and they would work like apartments, but be bigger and have access to a workshop (maybe a common one for everyone with some limitations?), and have a small garden on a deck so crossbreeding plants would be possible.

    I'm sure everyone would love to have an airship!

    // or a personal island somewhere! I think Wildstar did something like that, and I've heard it has 'the best housing in any mmos currently on the market'.
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    Vogue's Avatar
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    Vogue Rapture
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I am happy to see that players complaints aren't being ignored and measures to prevent these problems are being done for future patches. Also, thank you for looking to please more players so they can get a house as well, it truly is sad to see upset friends who didn't have the luxury or luck to get a low login queue and didn't get the chance to buy any house, since they all vanished in less than 15minutes.

    Also I do hope that by providing more wards and better house purchase systems, it will eventually kill the house illegal market, where people buy houses with the sole purpose of reselling them and make a profit, instead of using them for themselves.

    Good luck all for 4.2 and I truly hope you get to buy a house and have a lot of fun decorating
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    Apricoth Daenya
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 70
    Thank you for being responsive in a positive way and showing you and your team are open to remedying the situation instead of compounding it. <3
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Problem: Multiple houses per account.
    Solution: Limit number of houses availiable for purchase per account to 2 or 3, increase price for each house bought. (first small house is usual 3,5; 2nd small house 7, 3rd house 14). This way rich players and players with multiple characters still can own more houses but are restricted from having too many.
    That wouldn't make any difference when there is people offering 999mill or 1.1 bill for a mansion. Like I said before 1 personal 1 FC per account. If they can't do that then every house after that should get a daily large rent fee.
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    Atlantis Yumemora
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Please make it one personal house and on FC house per account that is shared among your alts.
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