Patch 4.2

[Rinuko]

Leave the smalls with a low maintenance. Mediums and Larges should be FC only, and 500k/1m per month at least.

Made me laugh while I wouldn't have any issues with the gil part as a fulltime crafter and owner of an small FC but leave mah FC Large and personal Medium alone!

[Beckett]

Why would you want to reward SE with their failure in housing by giving them even more money?

I know sarcasm is hard to read in text, but man, I thought I was making it too obvious with the $50 price tag!

[Mithia]

We already pay a monthly subscription without breaks in between, that's enough for rent I would say.

So even if its minor "maintenance" without any serious benefits (aside from the privilege of owning a house), I see no point to it as the rent would be nothing but tedious. Besides, what are they going to charge us for, aether usage? Next time I need to fend off a primal I'll send them the bill then for my transportation costs, and an hourly rate!

[Kuro_Mao]

[QUOTE=ChloeGrace;4437963]If you can afford to own a mansion, your FC can afford to pay 1M a month to keep it. Mediums should only be 500k, still doable spread out among a dozen or 20 people. Solo FC? Too bad. Pay up.

I'm not personally attacking you but this is not a good idea. Reason being, people like me hit gil cap long ago, believe it or not within 5 months of 2.0 in beta. I could afford this for a few earth years. It is nothing for an individual like myself to market manipulate, which is a game in and of itself and make the people I chose to profit, and the individuals I chose to bankruptcy.... Then I'd know when there lot is open.... That's why this is a bad plan. Remember, it's not a personal attack, just saying your comment is flawed to cater the upper 1% you are trying to hurt.

[Kuro_Mao]

I would be ok with $6/6month sub, or $1-2/month extra if it meant SE could afford housing for all. I hate saying I would pay more, but I would only do it if, 1 personal house per account all players on account can share, one FC house master per account per server with the promise of no cross server market board ever. No more of this I have 8 fc's on my account per server, I can understand having people as a different FC members, but not the "house" master role as it prevents the gil-mill cartels from continuing. FYI, 1/2 the reason I left famfrit. And went back to Hyperion. But player housing is the biggest cost for them server wise in game. I understand cut proffit to make player base sustainable, but there is only so far a dollar goes.
When Montreal expanded, the hardware they leased and took over was SSD drive only. If you have any data center knowledge, you know SSD drive storage was not cheap at all. I know LA was a cost +. How long before they let content take a hit?

[Siniztor]

I would be ok with $6/6month sub, or $1-2/month extra if it meant SE could afford housing for all. I hate saying I would pay more, but I would only do it if, 1 personal house per account all players on account can share, one FC house master per account per server with the promise of no cross server market board ever. No more of this I have 8 fc's on my account per server, I can understand having people as a different FC members, but not the "house" master role as it prevents the gil-mill cartels from continuing. FYI, 1/2 the reason I left famfrit. And went back to Hyperion. But player housing is the biggest cost for them server wise in game. I understand cut proffit to make player base sustainable, but there is only so far a dollar goes.
When Montreal expanded, the hardware they leased and took over was SSD drive only. If you have any data center knowledge, you know SSD drive storage was not cheap at all. I know LA was a cost +. How long before they let content take a hit?

Again there is 2 account types. Account option 2 offers you 8 characters.There not selling 1 Main and 7 alts.. If there gonna change this rule they need to completely over haul there accounts, ...Thats like sayng those who pay extra for retainers are no longer allowed to sell on them cause its "Not fair" those who don't pay extra can only sell 40 items wile some people sell 160 items..

Being on a server that didn't have housing issues before the free transfers yes i have a differnt opinion.

And again before my forum stalker says anything.i know tso says they can change the rules at any time lol

And if they wanna save money how about they cut there promotion budget lol painting a buliding for storm blood release paying $100,000's was kinda a waste for what 2 days or 3

[Naunet]

...better be titled "Housing Reborn", along with fully revamped instanced housing, one purchase per account, and in-game maintenance monthly fees.

If it's instanced, there is NO need to limit it per account and definitely no need for maintenance fees.

[Keridwyn]

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Housing and retainers are a bad comparison for the simple reason that when you pay for extra retainers the system auto-magically generates them for you and there is no limit to the amount of retainers the system can support. If the system could just auto-magically generate houses on demand with no limit then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Also, paying the higher sub fee allows us to have multiple characters per server but it doesn't allow us to skirt any actual account limitations besides that one. Thus if the rules on housing change to 1 per server, the higher sub fee still allows us to create those characters...they just have to share the house. Not an ideal soulution but until housing stops being so incredibly limited a paractical one.

[Siniztor]

Also, paying the higher sub fee allows us to have multiple characters per server but it doesn't allow us to skirt any actual account limitations. Thus if the rules on housing change to 1 per server, the higher sub fee still allows us to create those characters...they just have to share the house. Not an ideal soulution but until housing stops being so incredibly limited a paractical one.

Not by any means ideal..The kicker is the people wanting to make it retro and as you know our server for years was fine on houses hense why we have a few people with more then one mostly for rp purposes cause we had no house flippers (other then the ones who snagged a large here or there). If they don't make it reto fine but its silly to take away from people who did nothing wrong.

SE was doing so good with the PF/RF. I stand by the problem was SE Greed with allowing so many people to pay to transfer into worlds locked from creating a character till they it the point oh *&%$ theres to many people here the q's are hours long.Thats when they spread the housing problem to every single server

[Keridwyn]

Thats when they spread the housing problem to every single server

Trust me, I wasn't thrilled to discover my small town server had developed the big city server housing issue (especially since I haven't seen any perks or increased activity elsewhere on the server). I now have to warn folks I am inviting that they will have to camp wards for a chance at a house.

But I still think the one house per server thing will happen until they figure out how to solve the issue properly. Now that the crisis is on every server they can't turn a blind eye anymore but they're still going to do everything they can to stall a real fix for as long as possible. This is one of those things sadly.