Patch 4.2

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I like the idea of the smalls only being available as personal houses and Mediums/Larges being FCs only. The FC needs to have at least 10 members to purchase a plot would also stop everyone making a person FC to by pass it too. Just minus the rent scheme... Let's not do that on account of some FC not being great at making that much money in a short time.

Smalls are far too, well, small. Excuse me for wanting at least a medium so I can actually decorate more than two rooms and not have to force things into small corners. Regardless, FC restrictions like that are pointless since people will have alts ready to go.

[Gravton]

As for the rental fee. I could see the press release as this being the WoL paying his/her property tax every Eorzea year (2 weeks IRL). LOL

Lol! I think if I looked at it from the WOL's perspective I'd be pissed. I have a fc plot in gridania. I have saved gridania from gahruda, king mog, ramhu, and odin countless times. I have helped almost every citizen with one problem or another. Prevented multiple calamities from bahamut to king thordin to the warriors of darkness literally trying to destroy the universe. I have led gridania to victory numerous times in frontlines and led the charge against the garlean empire. After all of that you want to tax my house?....I'd burn that mother down.

[Septonyte]

Lol! I think if I looked at it from the WOL's perspective I'd be pissed. I have a fc plot in gridania. I have saved gridania from gahruda, king mog, ramhu, and odin countless times. I have helped almost every citizen with one problem or another. Prevented multiple calamities from bahamut to king thordin to the warriors of darkness literally trying to destroy the universe. I have led gridania to victory numerous times in frontlines and led the charge against the garlean empire. After all of that you want to tax my house?....I'd burn that mother down.

So are you saying the reason we never had a rental fee in the first place is because we have tax-exempt status due to their fear of us not working for them...

LMAO

My head cannon is totally changed forever.

[Kyoji5]

I totally disagree with "rent". They're houses, not apartments. The point of housing is not for housing to turn over when people run out of money.

I can definitely get behind 1 house / account, though.

Agreed. And if not 1 house per account, at least let there be endless housing options so people aren't fighting for features in the game that should be available to everyone (with the gil).

[Exiled_Tonberry]

Small and medium free for all, large houses limited to one per FC. There shouldn't be situations where one FC has 3-4 large houses amongst their members.
And of course, large houses locked to FC with at least 4 members only.
Other than that, I can't think of much that wouldn't be going overboard (paying rent lolpls).

[Siniztor]

I keep hearing that we should remove housing from people who have multiple houses on the same account. I disagree with that since we don't know the details of every one who owns multiple houses and many people are assuming those with multiple houses are house flippers. I am of the opinion that, if SE were to implement a 1 house per account policy of some variation they should simply prohibit players with a house from purchasing more land until they meet the criteria of "Homelessness".

This as i've and many others stated many times. some people like my self were on low pop servers where 100's of houses were empty up to the point SE decide they got enough cash from people transfering to balmug and decided to spread everyone out with free transfers.. we owned our homes for years with no one complaining till Se's poor transfer system spread the housing problem to low pop servers. If they just made 4 new servers and sent free transfer there.they could of just fixed the high n med pop servers who had housing issues now its every where.

The people who really get me are the ones who left houses to move to balmug payed $18 to go to a place that had no homes..only to take a free ride back and now say omg take away there houses i dont have one now lol.

Ad 20 more wards to each city then do this

Just make all apartments have the same interior as the houses . you can buy a s/m/l or buy a small and down the road upgrade to med or large. small has 2 floors like normal med the normal 3 floors and large the 3 massive floors add a balcony that looks out into genric scenery depending on where u pick to live ,mist ocean lav beds trees n so on... give balconys items limits like yards...make all apartments zone in from maijor citys to not just zones and offer transfer for apartments so they can change there balcony scenery..

As for gardens n workshops... take the sobs out of houses period / or add to all along with...
Put gardening and workshops in your GC squad door...the higher rank you are the more garden plots you have access to and the more airships..as well as housing glam schimatics.. no need to have these locked to houses or FC the airships bring back crafting material people not in fc can use..if airships only brought back items say such as rare buff making materil i can see it but time to unlock these two from houses

There are 3 GC ranks now 1-Private/ 2-Sergeant /3- Lieutenant
Garden plots/air ships
Rank 1 10 plots 1 ship
Rank 2 20 plots 2 ships
Rank 3 30 plots 4 ships

People seem to forget theres 2 subscriptions not just one. Just like any thing the more you pay the more rights you have.. which is why they cant make it a account based system not all accounts are the same

[Bloodkraft]

Leave the smalls with a low maintenance. Mediums and Larges should be FC only, and 500k/1m per month at least.

So - if I create a 1 man FC I can get a Large - what an exploit you have proposed. Look at the number of FC,s that are single person ones, it's easy to get an FC - heck you can buy them for 20-50mil with a house!!!

[Searban]

People seem to forget theres 2 subscriptions not just one. Just like any thing the more you pay the more rights you have.. which is why they cant make it a account based system not all accounts are the same

Just how many times does it have to be repeated? Stop bringing money into this discussion because it won't work in your favor.

First and foremost, you're paying 15$ a month, while the other sub is 13$. You're paying 2$ more and indeed have more rights - the right to create multiple characters on 1 server and to have more characters in total. That's it. That's what the difference between entry level sub and standard sub is and you are clearly informed what is it exactly that you're paying those 2$ for when you choose your subscription tier. Any other rights that you claim you should have are pure entitlement and nothing else.

Second, if you really can't grasp the obvious and still want to argue that just because you're paying a higher monthly subscription all characters you create should have the same rights as a single character of a player that is paying the lower one lets approach the issue in a logical manner. The minimum monthly cost of a single character with full rights is 13$. If we assume that you spend 13$ on your first (or main) character, then you only spend 2$ on all your alts combined. If we assume that you spent an equal amount of money on each of your characters, then with 3 characters you'd only spend 5$ on each of them. Why would they all have the same rights as characters people spend 13$ on? Pay 13$ per month per character.

Third, as far as money is concerned, from the business point of view you, owning 3 houses and paying 15$ a month will never have more value as a customer than 2 people that are paying combined 26$ and could instead own 2 out of your 3 houses. Even if you were to quit the game over this entire issue, 3 other people would take over your 3 plots, paying a combined monthly sub of 39$. All of this based on an assumption that there are no people paying the exact same sub as you do among those affected by the housing crisis. Which I find highly unlikely. Your way of thinking is that of a whale in a F2P cash shop based MMO. Which FFXIV isn't.

Seriously, stop brining money into this debate. You're hurting your own case.

This as i've and many others stated many times. some people like my self were on low pop servers where 100's of houses were empty up to the point SE decide they got enough cash from people transfering to balmug and decided to spread everyone out with free transfers.. we owned our homes for years with no one complaining till Se's poor transfer system spread the housing problem to low pop servers. If they just made 4 new servers and sent free transfer there.they could of just fixed the high n med pop servers who had housing issues now its every where.

The people who really get me are the ones who left houses to move to balmug payed $18 to go to a place that had no homes..only to take a free ride back and now say omg take away there houses i dont have one now lol.

You do realise that the primary reason why SE introduced free server transfers to spread playerbase more evenly across servers wasn't to reduce numbers on high population servers, but to improve numbers on low population servers? Those that people kept proclaiming dead, asking about server merges every 2 or 3 Live Letters? Adding 4 new servers would just contribute to the problem they were trying to deal with.

And stop with this Balmung shit. Not even the entire NA revolves around Balmung and Gilgamesh, and it has no bearing on EU or JP. And yet the housing issues being discussed exist across all 3 markets.

[Bloodkraft]

This as i've and many others stated many times. some people like my self were on low pop servers where 100's of houses were empty up to the point SE decide they got enough cash from people transfering to balmug and decided to spread everyone out with free transfers.. we owned our homes for years with no one complaining till Se's poor transfer system spread the housing problem to low pop servers. If they just made 4 new servers and sent free transfer there.they could of just fixed the high n med pop servers who had housing issues now its every where.
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Yes, you are correct the free move plus free gil as well helped create this issue. Seen it on Goblin.

[Siniztor]

Just how many times does it have to be repeated? Stop bringing money into this discussion because it won't work in your favor.
Seriously, stop brining money into this debate. You're hurting your own case.

And stop with this Balmung shit. Not even the entire NA revolves around Balmung and Gilgamesh, and it has no bearing on EU or JP. And yet the housing issues being discussed exist across all 3 markets.

1 No i will not as long as there is 2 differnt subscriiption rates i will bring it up. As long as Person A pays more then person B they get more rights in thee form of 8 characters being able to buy houses each..i dont care if its $2 or $20 fact is your paying more you have more rights as stated by Se in there land rules

"
:"- Purchasing Land
In order to purchase land, a character must first have attained level 50 in at least one class and also have earned the rank of second lieutenant in one of the Grand Companies. Each character meeting these requirements can purchase a single unowned plot via the placards found within the residential districts.
Plots of any size and within any ward may be purchased." (Square Enix, 2014)
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...330.1456104538
So as long as im payng more for more characters i have the right to buy as many houses as i want on my characters as long as i follow the rules

2 no again i wasnt untill they had to totaly lock down balmug and put in forced log offs that they had to move people off it that the free transfers came into effect.

Now see you and 1 other person (keep telling me money dont matter) have this blind paying more means nothing attude and thats fine but if you read my post lest it contains ideas and not just jumping down my throat for your opinion