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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    I think the timer wouldn't be so bad if it was just 1-4 hours. A 24 hour span is just horrible
    I honestly very often think the same thing myself. I really am unsure as to why it can be up to a full day. I don't think there's any server in the game with constantly full wards that would let a vacant plot go unnoticed for more than an hour.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    not that I think housing resale is a significant issue in the first place: people were selling at near to placard price before the timer was implemented (with some notable exceptions due to high profile plots such as 11/41 LB, 5/35 Mists etc).
    I have no idea as to where you get your house flipping info from, but personally I subbed to the housing market subreddit out of sheer curiosity quite some time before Shirogane was released. Usually only on massively populated servers had some super high prices and even then it very much depended on the plot location and size, and if the player was in a rush to leave the server. While the prices were often very high, they were realistic for the most part. However when Shirogane launched everyone and their mother went freaking crazy with the mark-up. I saw many cottage Shirogane plot posts stating a price at over 50 million gil, I clearly remember one being at 80 (it was on the beach) and the highest price I saw was a Shirogane mansion for 500 million gil. And this did not fly under the radar at all. Many players in the official forums posted about this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    And in regards to grandfathered houses: I think that the 5-10 designers across all the DCs that own several plots still make up for less of a problem than the sheer volume of people that have houses and leave them empty altogether.
    Ehhh while that number of players may seem small it could be a large number of houses altogether. A few years ago I did some lodestone digging with a friend about a few plots in our fc ward we were curious about (the gardens are mostly empty and have no aetherytes) and we pieced together that the same person owns seven houses. And these are just the plots we found in our fc's ward. They could have more elsewhere.

    But I do get what you're saying. Some grandfathered players only have two or three houses. My point is knowing the amount of players who engage in it doesn't really give an accurate picture of the amount of houses that is because the amount each person owns can wildly vary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    I think that the 5-10 designers across all the DCs that own several plots still make up for less of a problem than the sheer volume of people that have houses and leave them empty altogether. I ran around the wards on Mateus recently for shits and the volume of plots that I see where it's just people throwing whatever furniture they have into their house (regardless of size) is huge. I don't mean poorly decorated houses, I mean houses that are deliberately used as storage or not decorated at all. That chaps my cheeks way more than anything else.
    Well anyone can do what they like with their house, even if it's nothing or just for storage. Though I do completely understand why this is infuriating to see. It annoys me as well.

    As someone who redecorates a lot there is a bit of a storage problem. All of the private residences I have access to are decorated except for my apartment but I do use their storage as additional storage for the fc house.

    I redecorate the entrance floor and the garden of the fc house for every in-game event. Xmas, Halloween, etc. Because of this I have accumulated a tremendous amount of furniture, a lot of which is costly and irritating to replace. The storage in the fc house on its own is not enough. That plus a dedicated retainer for furniture is not enough. Outdoor furniture is particularly troublesome because the amount of storage slots is tiny.

    I truly can understand why someone would use a residence for furniture storage because I have been doing it for a long time now. Though I suppose the main difference between me and some others is that you wouldn't know unless I told you because anything strangers can access is fully decorated.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 10-16-2020 at 12:16 PM. Reason: accidental misquote and major typo, someday I'll learn to english