Released Properties Need an Invisible Random Timer

[Arielen]

Well anyone can do what they like with their house, even if it's nothing or just for storage. Though I do completely understand why this is infuriating to see. It annoys me as well.

As someone who redecorates a lot there is a bit of a storage problem. All of the private residences I have access to are decorated except for my apartment but I do use their storage as additional storage for the fc house.

I redecorate the entrance floor and the garden of the fc house for every in-game event. Xmas, Halloween, etc. Because of this I have accumulated a tremendous amount of furniture, a lot of which is costly and irritating to replace. The storage in the fc house on its own is not enough. That plus a dedicated retainer for furniture is not enough. Outdoor furniture is particularly troublesome because the amount of storage slots is tiny.

I truly can understand why someone would use a residence for furniture storage because I have been doing it for a long time now. Though I suppose the main difference between me and some others is that you wouldn't know unless I told you because anything strangers can access is fully decorated.

To be clear, I don't care if people use apartments as storage. They can essentially hold 200 slots of whatever shit you want to throw in there, and they're an essentially unlimited resource. It's a drag to see people with actual concepts get shimmed by people who don't use their houses for anything (most people don't even garden, in my FC's ward there's 2 gardens, ours and someone else's). But if the argument is that people who buy into a system have every right to do what they want with their property, including not using it, then I guess the whole idea of grandfathered houses isn't an issue regardless.

[Penthea]

But if the argument is that people who buy into a system have every right to do what they want with their property, including not using it, then I guess the whole idea of grandfathered houses isn't an issue regardless.

Nice try but no.

My issues with grandfathering are:

1 These people are knowingly hoarding something that is a limited resource under huge demand, which is directly depriving other players of content. They could let go of multiple houses and not lose complete access to housing content on that account.

However! I understand that it would suck to have alts suddenly homeless, so I think that if grandfathering is ever removed then it should only be done when all characters in the same server can share the same private home. I also think players should be able to invite their alts to their own fc without needing to use a third party to help them.

2 They're not following the same rules as everyone else. I really don't like the idea of seniority perks, especially when said perks have impact on other people.

Yes legacy players do get a cheaper sub but this does not grant them an in-game advantage. The in-game extras they have don't affect someone else's game experience and are purely cosmetic. Housing doesn't fit into this category.

But like I said before I wouldn't care much about these people if there was no shortage of houses. Every single issue with the system always goes back to not enough houses.

[ReiganCross]

Hello from the future. I'm here to say that I hate your idea with a burning passion Ifrit could not hope to generate. That is all, have a nice day.

[Themarvin]

just make random time from 24 hours to 7 days on small house, 48 hours to 14 days on medium houses, and on large make it 72 hours to 28 days.

and make relocation possible on each after minimum wait time.

[Jojoya]

Hello from the future. I'm here to say that I hate your idea with a burning passion Ifrit could not hope to generate. That is all, have a nice day.

You would have hated the old system even more. This is by no means perfect, or even good, but we're better off than we were at the time the original post was made.

[Divinemights]

Interesting, isn't this is the same guy who is criticizing the invisible random timer a while ago?
Are you telling me he is criticizing his own idea?

[Drkdays]

First off, let's take https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXIVhousingmarket/ into consideration. We're less than a week after the expansion, and on that page are (at the time of writing) properties in Shirogane up for sale. That's housing that are denied people who will love and use their new property because of greed alone.

House flipping needs to die.

Which is exactly why SE needs to add an invisible random timer when a property is released that puts the property into a limbo state (where no one can own it, and no one can use it) that lasts between one to twenty four hours. The only thing the players should see on the timer is that it exists, and the players should NEVER be able to see how much time is remaining on the timer.

That change would outright kill the house flipping market - which should never have been a thing to begin with.

This tweet did not age well.

[LaylaTsarra]

There is an old saying be careful what you ask.

[Jojoya]

Interesting, isn't this is the same guy who is criticizing the invisible random timer a while ago?
Are you telling me he is criticizing his own idea?

Sometimes the pitfalls aren't apparent until after the fact. It's okay to have an idea then later decide it didn't work. Games over the years have been filled with failed ideas.

I doubt he anticipated that the timer would create camping wars, nor did anyone else at the time. At least fewer first time buyers are going through the flippers to even get a house. That part of it worked short of those players desperate enough for a house to give up being part of an active FC to buy a shell FC from a flipper.

The failure of SE to keep up supply to meet demand is what has really caused the camping problem. If the supply was there, no one would worry about camping because there would always be a few random houses available and waiting for first time buyers.

[Divinemights]

Let be honest yourself, Housing is a limited resource. It is practically impossible to meet the increasing FF14 population with their current server infrastructure and outdated technology. Not even Blizzatd has the same capability and Garrison is merely a delusional phasing technology with premade gaming assets.

People nowadays that hunt for a house is merely a social status seeker, nothing more. This guy merely proven he (like many other gamers) are short-sighed (including those who ask for raffle or lottery). By knowing the resource is limited you need to ask for the correct thing. The discussion and request should be focus on expanding apartment feature such as bigger space etc. N