Crafting simulator updated - Endgame stat requirements required for maker's mark

[tayler1480]

Crafting sim - https://ermad.github.io/ffxiv-craft-...pp/#/simulator
(Might have to clear cache?)

Don't use "Observe" it's there to stop flawless synthesis finishing the craft. That's also why there's an extra 42cp aswell.

I prefer to take a risky/reward approach to crafting so I wouldn't use this rotation however not everyone wants to risk their mats & wouldn't mind going through such a long rotation.

I quickly threw together a horrible maker's mark rotation that is pretty reliable assuming you have the stat requirements shown in the screenshot(pretty demanding). I haven't tested it in game or even tested to see if those stats are accurate so take it with a grain of salt.

This doesn't take into consideration things like Tricks of the trade so good use of the additional cp can reduce the required control/cp requirements.

I know it's not perfect etc but I've been busy in game crafting etc. When I have time which will probably be a few days I'll post alternative rotations etc but until then hopefully this suffices & enjoy crafting.



Example: Possible melds - http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/13HS5

[Seyb]

Thank you. All I can add to this rotation is, that you can replace one "Prudent Touch" with either "Precise Touch" on a good or a "Basic Touch" as it saves 3 CP. (10 Prudent = 50 Dura; 9 Prudent + Basic = 55 Dura --> is the same)

Also, it's possible to restore durability during Maker's Mark phase and regain back the CP, leaving you with 30 durability more (will need to use Manipulation II after the first Prudents instead of before). This could be used for additional synthesis touches, if you failed/replaced too many Flawless Synthesis. Also, one more Touch fits in between the last Steady Hand II and Great Strides (only if you restored the durability during MaMa Phase). Don't know if it's worth it though, as you would need 7 Tricks of the Trade instead of 2.

[Alisi]

Also, it's possible to restore durability during Maker's Mark phase and regain back the CP, leaving you with 30 durability more (will need to use Manipulation II after the first Prudents instead of before). This could be used for additional synthesis touches, if you failed/replaced too many Flawless Synthesis. Also, one more Touch fits in between the last Steady Hand II and Great Strides (only if you restored the durability during MaMa Phase). Don't know if it's worth it though.

Man1 or Mend1 are both cheaper. No need to use MM2. Generally, I haven't had the kind of luck that makes this a bad decision. Not yet. I mean, once I had to use an extra CS1 so I basically started with 60/70 but it's still better than 40/70. We're talking like 56 or 64 flawless touches here. You don't need to use it immediately. You can wait until you have like 30 or 40 left, just to see how your luck is going. And the ingredients aren't very hard to come by. I'd be a lot more hesitant to use it if this was HW crafting during the favor farming aspect of crafting. But then again, you'd also use reclaim if things went south and pray you got your stuff back too.

[Seyb]

Man1 or Mend1 are both cheaper. No need to use MM2. Generally, I haven't had the kind of luck that makes this a bad decision. Not yet. I mean, once I had to use an extra CS1 so I basically started with 60/70 but it's still better than 40/70. We're talking like 56 or 64 flawless touches here. You don't need to use it immediately. You can wait until you have like 30 or 40 left, just to see how your luck is going. And the ingredients aren't very hard to come by. I'd be a lot more hesitant to use it if this was HW crafting during the favor farming aspect of crafting. But then again, you'd also use reclaim if things went south and pray you got your stuff back too.

Yes, you would use Manip I or MaMe I which both cost more than 80 CP meaning 5 Tricks of the Trade. The question is what to do with the extra 30 durability. You can squeeze one more Touch in, but would be a Hasty Touch if you don't have CP left.

What I meant with "(will need to use Manipulation II after the first Prudents instead of before)" is that you can't use Manip II followed by Steady Hand when you're already at 70/70.

Here's a visualization with 2 Star attributes.



I added one more Ingeniuty as I had enough CP.

[Alisi]

What I meant with "(will need to use Manipulation II after the first Prudents instead of before)" is that you can't use Manip II followed by Steady Hand when you're already at 70/70.

Oh yeah, I see what you're saying. I misunderstood. I don't use MM2 at 70/70. I've been using SH2 with prudents until SH2 falls off, then doing MM2, CZ, Ing2, and SH2 to proceed, so I'm at around 40-ish dura when I use it. It is a bit of a gamble whether I'd recoup the CP from Mend 1 or if it's a net loss. I don't think it matters so much now. I haven't been pinch for CP but it might be a problem with 3 star or whatever recipes are coming.

[ChloeGrace]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but I'm getting way better results with Blessing at full IQ stacks, rather than the miracle/brow combo in this rotation.
I can still hit full progress with maker's and flawless, plus one careful II, and quality is much higher.

[tayler1480]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but I'm getting way better results with Blessing at full IQ stacks, rather than the miracle/brow combo in this rotation.
I can still hit full progress with maker's and flawless, plus one careful II, and quality is much higher.

Able to post a screenshot or something? Like I said I quickly threw it together & so chances are there are definitely improvements.

[Seyb]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but I'm getting way better results with Blessing at full IQ stacks, rather than the miracle/brow combo in this rotation.
I can still hit full progress with maker's and flawless, plus one careful II, and quality is much higher.

Hm... yes, replacing Miracle with Basic Touch and Brow with Blessing (buffs stay the same) will yield more quality. However, that's an additional 14 CP AND Blessing is not under Steady Hand. :/ if you don't use Great Strides on the Basic Touch, you will save 18 CP have a 100% safe Blessing BUT it'll be weaker than Miracle + Brow. At least all according to calculator.

[Lyraele]

Is there a list somewhere of the new recipes? And how you get them?

[Lyraele]

So now that I'm down to just ALC and GSM to get to 70, I was starting to look at working out macros for ALC levequest hand-ins. But the crafting simulator at https://ermad.github.io/ seems to be missing things like Growth Formula Theta and all of the ALC recipes above 65. Anyone else have this problem? It has been working great for every other craft I've leveled to 70 in past month...