Restrict Personal Houses to 1 Per Server!

[Niraves]

Absolutely not.

I'm a minimalist with design and decoration, and this would screw over my design sensibilities because (IMO) you don't need to have the house anywhere near cap to have it look good. This rule is completely asinine.

Just because you're a packrat, doesn't mean you should make everyone else a packrat or else.

I wasn't being serious, obviously. I don't think its reasonable to expect people to spend every minute of every day logged into their house. I don't care how people decorate their houses either, as long as they actually do SOMETHING with them. I'm just a little irritated with all these people demanding houses be taken away from alts and then wandering through my ward in Shirogane and seeing every other house totally empty.

Taking away alt houses isn't going to fix housing, its not even going to make a dent in the issue. I own one house on my main and one house on my alt, I use both daily. Why should I lose a house so someone who probably will ignore it 28 days a month can have it? I didn't violate any terms of service to get my second house. Why should I be punished?

Taking houses away from people isn't the answer, and people need to stop acting like its going to make any difference except to piss off players that put in the time and effort to get a second house.

I do honestly think the demo timer should be shorter than it currently is. I think 14 days would be reasonable. If you want to go on a vacation, or take a break from the game or whatever it may be, thats on you. You can either log in to keep your house, or don't. If you don't, it obviously wasn't that important to you. (And for the record, I don't think the occasionally demo relinquished house makes any real difference in the housing situation either, but we work with what we have.)

What we really need are dynamic wards or instanced houses. SE can keep trying to throw band-aids on this, but its like trying to stop an avalanche with a paper plate.

[Penthea]

Taking away alt houses isn't going to fix housing, its not even going to make a dent in the issue.

Yea people said the same thing about demolition, and well almost everyone I know who has a house or fc house got it because of demolition.

In an ideal world everyone can have several houses if they like. But SE seem determined to keep the ward system, which means there will always be limited houses. In a system in which there is limited supply then the amount of houses a player can own should also be limited.

[Almagnus1]

Could you please post where ya got that from??? Im intested in reading the whole thing..Cause all i've seen if him say they didn't add enough plots and there loooking for feedback on how to add n sell them

Maybe you should stop trolling and RTF thread.

Taking away alt houses isn't going to fix housing, its not even going to make a dent in the issue. I own one house on my main and one house on my alt, I use both daily. Why should I lose a house so someone who probably will ignore it 28 days a month can have it? I didn't violate any terms of service to get my second house. Why should I be punished?

Been over this before many times, but you're getting punished because of the land barons absorbing waaaay to many houses. Exact same thing happens when any group of players abuses part of the system.

Taking houses away from people isn't the answer, and people need to stop acting like its going to make any difference except to piss off players that put in the time and effort to get a second house.

There's no mathematical argument you can make where the current multi-house owners come out ahead. If SE does go through with this, then you get screwed, but at least as many (and probably more) are going to be happy because they finally get a house.

I do honestly think the demo timer should be shorter than it currently is. I think 14 days would be reasonable. If you want to go on a vacation, or take a break from the game or whatever it may be, thats on you. You can either log in to keep your house, or don't. If you don't, it obviously wasn't that important to you. (And for the record, I don't think the occasionally demo relinquished house makes any real difference in the housing situation either, but we work with what we have.)

14 days is still too short though. This policy is fine as is IMO.

What we really need are dynamic wards or instanced houses. SE can keep trying to throw band-aids on this, but its like trying to stop an avalanche with a paper plate.

I would suspect that the dynamic wards we'd need would be upwards of 100 wards in each neighborhood if ownership restrictions aren't put in place. At some point it just becomes too much load for SE to handle, so they'd have to cap the neighborhoods somehow.

[Gnorok]

Been over this before many times, but you're getting punished because of the land barons absorbing waaaay to many houses. Exact same thing happens when any group of players abuses part of the system.

You have stated this many times. Do you have actual numbers to back up your claims?
I don´t believe there are that many players who have multiple houses.

[Penthea]

14 days is still too short though. This policy is fine as is IMO.

Good god 45 days is already too short, never mind 14. Having the demo timer as only two weeks will literally punish people for going on holiday. Heaven forbid you have a life outside of the game.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Good god 45 days is already too short, never mind 14. Having the demo timer as only two weeks will literally punish people for going on holiday. Heaven forbid you have a life outside of the game.

Honestly, I think the demo timer should be tied to an active subscription. If you're willing to pay $14 a month, you should be able to keep your house regardless of whether you're able to log in. I wouldn't even be opposed to extending it to a three month subscription period to allow people breaks in-between patches.

[Tussin]

demo timer's aren't in most games for housing. so it's not a good band-aid fix to the main issues. people should be able to take a break or if life arises without losing your hard earned home.

honestly you don't need more than 1 FC and Personal per server. anything else is greed or for alterior purposes like flipping.

most people lie that they want to decorate multiple homes? i've seen the effort gone into that and it's embarrassing. put some real effort into your main home and FC property properly and make it shine. stop cutting corners and using generic vendor housing items and think what you are doing is good to warrant how many houses? it's time to start with truth

[Penthea]

Honestly, I think the demo timer should be tied to an active subscription.

The problem with this is it enables players who have decided to play on another character to keep a home on a character they no longer use. Well the current one still does but at least it encourages you to play that character to keep their house.

I think the demo timer should be increased to 90 days as it is rare for a player who intends on playing frequently to be unable to log in for 90 days. 45 days makes things difficult if you have to go on a work trip, move house or are unlucky enough that your gaming machine dies. I actually know two people who gave their login details to friends to enter their houses because they were unable to due to moving house.

I would settle for some sort mechanic that would extend the demolition timer, but with limited charges per year to prevent it from being abused. Like maybe a check-box you click in the mogstation to extend the timer to 90 days. Having it accessible through the mogstation makes it possible for players who don't have access to a gaming machine to still extend the timer.

[Almagnus1]

I think the demo timer should be increased to 90 days as it is rare for a player who intends on playing frequently to be unable to log in for 90 days. 45 days makes things difficult if you have to go on a work trip, move house or are unlucky enough that your gaming machine dies. I actually know two people who gave their login details to friends to enter their houses because they were unable to due to moving house.

I would settle for some sort mechanic that would extend the demolition timer, but with limited charges per year to prevent it from being abused. Like maybe a check-box you click in the mogstation to extend the timer to 90 days. Having it accessible through the mogstation makes it possible for players who don't have access to a gaming machine to still extend the timer.

I was thinking about this, and if houses were restricted to only one personal house per server per account... would we even need a demo timer?

[Siniztor]

I was thinking about this, and if houses were restricted to only one personal house per server per account... would we even need a demo timer?

Yes you would because the next complaint would be my neighbor john doe quit the game a year ago yet he still is holding up that house next to me cause theres no demo timer.there has to be some timer for people who leave the game and have houses