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    I've actually been looking in to LotRO, and if FFXIV wants to have parity with how many houses LotRO has active, FFXIV needs to have about 20 wards in each neighborhood, as they are averaging about 30-40 neighborhoods (30 house wards) in most of the neighborhoods, with one up around 60 - and each neighborhood only has 30 houses (with the exception of the premium one which is RMT only at 24 houses per neighborhood), with 4 houses in each neighborhood as kinship [FC] houses. The absolute maximum is around 4 * 30 * 256 + 24 * 256 = 36864. LotRO will probably never see that many houses open on a single server, truth be told.

    However, bringing that many wards onto the market without doing anything about the land baron is only going to be in the land baron's favor because they can continue to snatch up houses, especially if they are flipping them for over 10 times their cost. That's also ignoring the server impact of bringing online that many wards.

    That's also why I want to address account housing capacity, as we need to be able to stretch the housing to cover the most players - which means having players release their extra houses or having SE force the release.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niraves View Post
    The wards are usually pretty empty anyway, so I don't see why we can't have instanced housing.
    Perhaps that's because the wards have several people that own multiple plots of land, which is driving down how many players are actually in the ward....

    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    Your arguing in game player kicks against people breaking The TOS the DEVS have set... Ok lets break that down shall we. As you said healers don't break any rules not dpsing yet run the risk of getting voke to kicked...those who vote to kick healers for that are guess what Breaking the rules. There is no reason to kick for that. the reasons listed to kick are 1=AFK 2-Offline 3-Harassment 4-Cheating. a healer not dps'ing or not going as a job instead of a class is doing none of them. but the people who kick those people are faslely kicking ,lieing as to why they kicked them because in there personal opinion they don't like there game play...

    See the healers not dps'ing and the people who don't do job classes have broke no rules just as the people with multi houses are not breaking the rules.. But the people kicking are lieing as to why there kicking people the Ai to kick has no way to know that so there kicked.
    Try that discussion in the healer forums, and let us know how it goes mmmkay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    As i said before im fine if they wanna change the rules now as they add more hosuing... im not fine with taking things away from people who did nothing wrong just like anyone else who pays there sub and follows the rules you shouldn't be punished period... like others have said grandfather us in and make it so we cant transfer ..
    If the point of changing the rules is to free up houses and prevent players from taking more houses than what SE intended, isn't the rules change pointless unless a forced release also happens?

    Because SE let the housing issue fester, there is not going to be a change to the housing system that isn't going to screw over some group or another.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    As for housee flippers many many people have said just put a timer on when the pot goes back up for sale after its been relinquished a random 24-72 house timer or how ever long that way the seller can not quantee the buyer the plot
    Most everyone agrees with that as well, as there are multiple things (including an invisible random timeout and increased capacity) that are needed to fully resolve most of the housing issues.
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    Last edited by Almagnus1; 10-19-2017 at 01:12 PM.