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  1. #21
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    Almagnus1's Avatar
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by lokowoko View Post
    honestly enough i think this is the solution they need to go with, though i'd say to go one step further and add a rule that if you make an fc, all of your other characters on the server gets placed into it or are prevented from making/joining and removed from other fcs and the fc needs 10 or more unique characters (basically 10 different service accounts) before you can build an fc building, also adding a watered down version of airships/workshop for non fc houses probably would be nice. it would certainly help more people get a chance at housing in my opinion.
    IMO it'd be simpler just enforcing a minimum player requirement with a disband meter that fills when an FC is below the meter, and depletes when the FC is at or above the requirement, so someone is forced to be at the safe level as often as they are below it, or risk having their FC disbanded when the disband meter fills after about 30 days of being below the requirement.

    That change alone would completely and totally halt the FC side of this issue - but like any of the suggested changes to address the FC side of things it's going to cause collateral damage and screw over people that aren't land barons because the land barons have abused the system.
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  2. #22
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    VanSanity91's Avatar
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    Vanyel Trevellian
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 70
    1 house per account end of story, only people that want more are re-selling the plots and don't want to lose their gil maker. get over it.
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  3. #23
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    LadyKairi's Avatar
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    Kaja White
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    There is no good reason why someone should have half a subdivision to themselves. Walked through the goblet a while ago, and two different FCs owned an entire ward. My friend and I visited each house that was open, and majority of the houses WERE EMPTY. And most of the ones that did have furniture in them, there were only a few things in them. So many plots that could have been actually used by FCs or individuals like myself who ACTUALLY cherish and use their plots. It was seriously heartbreaking. why have a plot if you're just going to let it sit bare? It's a waste of Gil, imo.... I just don't get it.
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  4. #24
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    Garten's Avatar
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    Garten Rei
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    ..
    Specifically addressing the “people want to live in a ward” part of this quote: I offered a compromise to that with my talk about a 13th Ward being added to existing housing areas that looked just like any other ward, but the housing plots themselves were instanced similar to apartments.
    ...
    I was thinking at the same exact solution. The main reason i wanted a house, was for cross-gardening, you can't do that in an apartment.
    And.. just to add something i think nobody talked about (but maybe i missed), is the fact that A LOT of players, buyed the houses with alts just to sell them in a few weeks and make money -.-
    I know at least a couple of players who did that..
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  5. #25
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    Mikki's Avatar
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    Phoenix Down
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zero_syndicate View Post
    The problem with this though is that it wasn't implemented in the beginning. So you'd be punishing players that are simply doing what they have the right to do. Had this been an initial implementation then it'd be NO problem. But now you'd have to tell the players that have multiple houses, some filled beyond personal storage capacity, "hey we're removing your right to the houses you have to all but one. You must find a place for all that extra furnishings you have or it also be removed." Essentially evicting people for doing nothing wrong.
    I agree. This needs to change and they need to set a restriction of 1 house per server. However, I don't think it's right to take them away from those who have gotten them since technically this was allowed. I propose we grandfather those people and in the future, not allow more than 1 house.

    If those players don't log in and lose their house to the demo-timer, they will not be allowed to purchase more than 1 house again. I also agree alts need access to the houses!
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  6. #26
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Agreed. Make it happen. Also make it so your alts automatically have access to your personal house.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
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  7. #27
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Maybe you're right, but you're also definitely too late.
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  8. #28
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikki View Post
    I agree. This needs to change and they need to set a restriction of 1 house per server. However, I don't think it's right to take them away from those who have gotten them since technically this was allowed. I propose we grandfather those people and in the future, not allow more than 1 house.
    They could grandfather it. They could also make it phased by adding an option to sell a house in game, restricting buying to someone who doesn't have a house on their account, and then in the next major patch start demolishing houses of people who have too many. That'd give them time to sell them off and get compensated.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
    Discord: Tridus#2642

  9. #29
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by lokowoko View Post
    honestly enough i think this is the solution they need to go with, though i'd say to go one step further and add a rule that if you make an fc, all of your other characters on the server gets placed into it or are prevented from making/joining and removed from other fcs and the fc needs 10 or more unique characters (basically 10 different service accounts) before you can build an fc building, also adding a watered down version of airships/workshop for non fc houses probably would be nice. it would certainly help more people get a chance at housing in my opinion.
    I don’t really think that enforcing FC restrictions would be the best idea when it came to purchasing FC plots. Because, for one, some people would just pay others to be in their FC long enough to guarantee the purchase of a plot before kicking them out, but also because there are a lot of smaller but extremely active FCs out there. My first FC was one of the largest ones on my server (well, from what I’ve heard, it’s shrunk since I was in it but it was fairly large back when I first joined it). I didn’t like the large FC feel, so my second one was a group of 6 people (all IRL friends), and we were all on every single day doing content. The FC was small—just our mains and a couple alts, but we were just as active as larger FCs. My current FC that I am the master of is comprised of even less individuals, but we are all active on our mains (and, again, we are all IRL friends, and not just friends inside of FFXIV). Restricting smaller FCs isn’t really the way to go, because some people just want to be in an FC with their personal friends and not a large one. Everyone should have a fair shot at housing—that is what I firmly believe, even though I know “fair shot” is virtually impossible with the current system.

    There just has to be a better way, and I think the Devs should honestly consider separating the wards in a way that one part is FC housing and another personal, or converting the 12 wards into FC housing, while adding a 13th ward that is all completely instanced plots (exterior yards and interiors) for personal housing only.
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    Xavier Savior
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    Leviathan
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    Monk Lv 90
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