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    Searban's Avatar
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    Yoru Ulfurinn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niraves View Post
    I didn't say anything about having a weekly income. I simply said that making gil in this game isn't exactly difficult. Yes, I am a crafter and that makes it easier, but there is nothing stopping anyone else from crafting, or gathering, or doing their weekly challenge logs which literally rain gil down on you. I haven't been given one solid reason why I would want to relinquish my alts house. Why in the hell would I want to give up something I worked my butt off to get? Because Mr. Random Internet Person is mad that he doesn't have a house? That's not my fault. You want a house, do the work. Stop trying to take houses from people who legitimately earned them.
    Ah, there it is. The final argument to end all arguments. How a house owner earned every single plot in his or her collection. With how plots distribution works under the current housing system you've won a lotter (especially if it's a Shirogane house). You may employ all the mental gymnastics you want, but winning a lottery isn't earning things. Just because you and that Random Internet Person did exactly the same things and followed exactly the same steps. You have your house, that Random Interned Person doesn't. Does it mean he didn't earn it and you did? Nope, it just means he wasn't lucky enough. At this point I'm beginning to hope SE can be convinced to go through with this proposed change simply because arguments employed by multiple plots owners are getting worse by the day.

    You haven't said anything about a weekly income, but you're getting upset over the fact that people may not have the money to spend on house decorations 2 weeks after obtaining their plots. How dare they not have enough money yet. How dare they not be willing to spend money on cheap items they don't want to satisfy your aesthetic needs regarding plots that aren't yours. Outrageous.

    You haven't been given any reasons why you'd want to relinquish your additional plots because just as you don't care about players that couldn't get theirs none of the players involved in this discussion care about you or what you want. No one is trying to convince you because: a) that would be a futile attempt anyway; b) you're not the one that needs to be convinced, devs are. That's how feedback works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niraves View Post
    SE has made some pretty stupid decisions regarding housing. Taking away plots from the people who aren't even using them seems like a hell of a lot better option than to just take away someones alts house that they use daily. But we'll just have to wait and see. Personally, I hope SE doesn't do this, because not everyone has a second account like I do to be able to keep their houses if this change goes through. And based off what I've seen in my wards, 80% of the people who bought houses in Shirogane don't deserve them.
    Assuming that people loosing plots would be upset about the whole deal one way or another taking 2 plots away from 1 player is always going to be better option than taking 2 plots from 2 different players from the point of view SE have. Again, needs of many vs needs of the few.

    That those 2 players don't deserve their plots? They've won them in the great lottery of post-maintenance rush therefore they've earned them. And here I thought you aren't more deserving than other house owners.
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    Last edited by Searban; 10-24-2017 at 01:20 AM.

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    Niraves's Avatar
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    Niraves Lunas
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Searban View Post
    Ah, there it is. The final argument to end all arguments. How a house owner earned every single plot in his or her collection. With how plots distribution works under the current housing system you've won a lotter (especially if it's a Shirogane house). You may employ all the mental gymnastics you want, but winning a lottery isn't earning things. Just because you and that Random Internet Person did exactly the same things and followed exactly the same steps. You have your house, that Random Interned Person doesn't. Does it mean he didn't earn it and you did? Nope, it just means he wasn't lucky enough. At this point I'm beginning to hope SE can be convinced to go through with this proposed change simply because arguments employed by multiple plots owners are getting worse by the day.
    I spent months camping aetherytes every hour on the hour whenever I was online. Months. I earned my plot on my alt and I got lucky with my plot on my main, but no way in hell am I giving up either of them. My Shirogane house for my main, yes, I did get lucky with that one. I got one of the last small plots available after I managed to get through two lobby errors and a 2k+ queue. At least I actually use mine, which is more than can be said for a lot of people. It's not like I rushed out to buy up a ward full of houses that I never go to or only bother to go there once every 45 days to reset the timer.

    You haven't said anything about a weekly income, but you're getting upset over the fact that people may not have the money to spend on house decorations 2 weeks after obtaining their plots. How dare they not have enough money yet. How dare they not be willing to spend money on cheap items they don't want to satisfy your aesthetic needs regarding plots that aren't yours. Outrageous.
    Yeah. I am upset about it. I'm friends with an FC that wanted to upgrade their medium plot to a large, but no one could beat the queue in time to get a mansion anywhere. People rushed in to snap up all the large/medium plots and now they are sitting there empty. Frankly, I don't care what crap excuse people have for it, but two weeks is more than enough time to do SOMETHING with your plot. If you can't be bothered to 'deal with it', then don't buy it and let someone who actually plans to use it buy the land. Just my two gil.

    Regardless, you can have your opinion and I'll keep mine. What either of us has to say isn't going to make one lick of difference anyway, SE will do what they want and we'll adapt to it as needed.
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    Last edited by Niraves; 10-24-2017 at 01:51 AM.

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    Siniztor's Avatar
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    Sin Bathory
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Searban View Post
    Ah, there it is. The final argument to end all arguments. How a house owner earned every single plot in his or her collection. With how plots distribution works under the current housing system you've won a lotter (especially if it's a Shirogane house). You may employ all the mental gymnastics you want, but winning a lottery .
    weird won no lottery here unless you mean i know how to walk up to a sign .. there wasn't ah housing shortage on most loq pop servers there was 200-400 empty plots when i got mine
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    Maley Oakensage
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    weird won no lottery here unless you mean i know how to walk up to a sign .. there wasn't ah housing shortage on most loq pop servers there was 200-400 empty plots when i got mine
    Getting a house (at least on a high or med pop server) is like winning the lotto unless you're willing to pay through the noise for a house flipper to release their lot... assuming that isn't a scam.

    Also, due to the absurd amount of gil going through those transactions, I wouldn't be surprised if the house flippers were actually connected to the gil sellers.
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