Restrict Personal Houses to 1 Per Server!

[joshdavis271]

As long as I can share the house with my alts this would work perfectly, I could sit in one spot all day and craft and transfer things between my main and alts real easily instead of moving form city to city.

[Gravton]

You want the devs to seize property from the wealthy by any means, to then resell it to others? I agree that we should only have one per account, I disagree with your redistribution of wealth premise.

[Niraves]

As someone who owns multiple houses on one server, I can't say I agree with this OP.

I was pretty lucky to get a small personal house for myself when 4.1 dropped. Here we are, a week later, and in my ENTIRE WARD, I am the only house who has more than 40 items. The ONLY one. Only three other houses had more than ten items total, combining the yard and the house interior. Two of the mansions are entirely empty, the third one has three vendors and a summoning bell.

My house on my main and my house on my alt are both item capped. I worked hard to gather and craft everything in both of those houses. How is it fair to me that I should have to lose one of my houses so that someone else can buy it and then never use it? I use both of my homes every day. I put in the time and work to craft and decorate them. I don't see how people like me are the problem, it seems to me like the people who buy a house and then NEVER use it are the issue.

[Penthea]

As someone who owns multiple houses on one server, I can't say I agree with this OP.

I was pretty lucky to get a small personal house for myself when 4.1 dropped. Here we are, a week later, and in my ENTIRE WARD, I am the only house who has more than 40 items. The ONLY one.

What players do with their own house is their own business as long as it's not against the terms of use. A player decorating or not decorating their house is a poor argument to allow them keep it or to take it away. The problem has to do with the amount of houses available to the player population, not the quality of decoration.

The game is designed so that you can do everything on one character and SE do nothing to encourage playing alts save for allowing them to be made. You can't even mail your alts. Alts being able to buy plots is definitely an oversight...unfortunately the housing system is riddled with them, so here we are. If you own more than one personal house and one fc house on a single server, you're part of the problem. Whether you decorated them lovingly or not.

[Niraves]

What players do with their own house is their own business as long as it's not against the terms of use. A player decorating or not decorating their house is a poor argument to allow them keep it or to take it away. The problem has to do with the amount of houses available to the player population, not the quality of decoration.

The game is designed so that you can do everything on one character and SE do nothing to encourage playing alts save for allowing them to be made. You can't even mail your alts. Alts being able to buy plots is definitely an oversight...unfortunately the housing system is riddled with them, so here we are. If you own more than one personal house and one fc house on a single server, you're part of the problem. Whether you decorated them lovingly or not.

What players do with their own house is their own business, you're right. It's not against the ToS, but then again, neither is owning a house on my alt. A player not putting in the time or effort to actually use the house they purchased is no less a poor argument to allow them to keep it than saying that I don't deserve to keep both of my houses because 'there isn't enough to go around'. The problem IS that there aren't enough to go around, but its not MY problem.

The game is designed so that if you put in the time and effort to level an alt, camp the wards and eventually get a little bit lucky you can maybe find a home for your alt. My alt had a house a long time before my main did, and it's not fair to me, or anyone else who managed to get lucky enough to find a plot for their alt, that we should be forced to give up our homes to other players who likely won't even make use of them. If you want a house, do the same thing I did. Camp the wards while you are logged in. Every hour on the hour. For months. For however long it takes.

Taking away other peoples houses just because 'it isn't fair to people who don't have a house!', thats crap. And it even if SE did do this, there STILL wouldn't be enough houses for everyone. All this is going to do is piss off people who put in a lot of effort to get their homes.

[Penthea]

Taking away other peoples houses just because 'it isn't fair to people who don't have a house!', thats crap. And it even if SE did do this, there STILL wouldn't be enough houses for everyone. All this is going to do is piss off people who put in a lot of effort to get their homes.

You know what's more crap? Not having a house. If SE are going to continue this awful system with wards, then they're going to have to do something to make sure it isn't abused by players with alts and more money than they need.

[Niraves]

Snip.

For the record, I agree that the wards are stupid. I don't think SE will change that system though, but I would personally much rather have instanced housing so that everyone could buy a house if they wanted to.

The wards are usually pretty empty anyway, so I don't see why we can't have instanced housing.

[Siniztor]

You know what's more crap? Not having a house. If SE are going to continue this awful system with wards, then they're going to have to do something to make sure it isn't abused by players with alts and more money than they need.

You know whats even more crap..Paying $18 to move to a low pop server cause housing was my #1 priority...Having my 3 houses for a year + watching 200+ empty plots for a year...then people getting a free ride to our server Demanding we give up our houses we had for a year cause now they want a house.. WHEN WE BROKE NO RULES TO GET OUR HOUSES and yet you wanna punish us for not breaking rules. just cause in your opinon now that free transfered happen were greedy when i been sitting like this for a year just fine

[Niraves]

Perhaps that's because the wards have several people that own multiple plots of land, which is driving down how many players are actually in the ward....

Yeah, I'm sure that's it. /s

Long and short of it is no matter how much it sucks for some folks this idea has all the earmarks of being an attractive solution to SE. Just like demos were. It's going to do the exact same thing, cause a lot of people who did nothing wrong to lose a lot of things they worked hard for and give them compensation they feel is inadequate. But just like demos it's something that probably should have been there from the beginning and it's something SE could have avoided doing entirely if they'd implemented any of the above suggested fixes instead.

Long and short of it is, taking houses from players actively using them is not the same thing as demoing a house the player hasn't entered for 45+ days. If you aren't using the house you don't deserve it, same thing for 90% of the people who snatched up all the new plots in Shirogane and have done absolutely nothing with them since.

I say we reduce the demo timer to 7 days, require players to have a minimum of 50% of the item cap inside the house and outside in the yard, and if these things aren't met, on the players next login, they get to watch a short cutscene of their house being blown to bits while a bunch of random NPCs cheer in the background.

That should free up some houses, without having to strip players who are actually using their homes of their property.

[Iveriad]

I say we reduce the demo timer to 7 days, require players to have a minimum of 50% of the item cap inside the house and outside in the yard, and if these things aren't met, on the players next login, they get to watch a short cutscene of their house being blown to bits while a bunch of random NPCs cheer in the background.

7 days might be a bit much. Sometimes people took 1-2 weeks long trip for vacation. By reducing it to 7 days, you're basically saying that the player's life should revolve around this game. Which is just as bad as the skinner box design for mobile games.