Housing Fans who have been upset: Cries Have Not Been Ignored Yet

[Clint_Beastwood]

I pay a sub each month. I am sad for the people who did not get a house but punishing people because they got one is not fair either.

I also feel they should limit it to 1 house per account and also instantly ban anybody who uses the housing situation to sell plots either in game for stupid amounts.

The housing is a mess but as a long term player i can not and wont pay rent on a house i paid for because some people missed out.

It is bad it does need fixing and it should have been instanced just don't punish the people who got a house genuinely.

If you play the game regularly, even casually, the aforementioned system would be negligible for upkeep of a home, and is designed to put finite resources back into the game so people that pay a sub but don't play, don't just sit on a plot for 6 months somebody else could have been enjoying it.

[Perogwin]

If you play the game regularly, even casually, the aforementioned system would be negligible for upkeep of a home, and is designed to put finite resources back into the game so people that pay a sub but don't play, don't just sit on a plot for 6 months somebody else could have been enjoying it.

Better to rebuild housing from the ground up at this point. Just make instanced housing and let anyone who wants a house be able to get one at a reasonable price....problem solved! The houses have no bearing on actual game play and are just for ascetics/roleplay, so why not let everyone have access. Many other MMO do it this way and it works great.

[MistakeNot]

Better to rebuild housing from the ground up at this point. Just make instanced housing and let anyone who wants a house be able to get one at a reasonable price....problem solved! The houses have no bearing on actual game play and are just for ascetics/roleplay, so why not let everyone have access. Many other MMO do it this way and it works great.

In what way would instanced housing make it easier for everyone who wants a house to get one?
If there are problems adding enough additional wards, then surely there would also be problems adding enough housing instances.

[BillyKaplan]

In what way would instanced housing make it easier for everyone who wants a house to get one?
If there are problems adding enough additional wards, then surely there would also be problems adding enough housing instances.

They said at one point that adding new apartments can be done at any time because of the way it was implemented. Instanced housing would utilize a similar system and thus avoid many of the problems existing right now with the present system. For one, there will be not competition for an actual physical plot, removing that awful element. Then, it's a lot easier to add, as it's just the one housing instance vs. an entire ward. Active strain on the servers would be a lot lesser at any given time as well, I imagine, as you won't have to maintain an entire ward just for the one player who went there to check the MB.

[Ametrine]

We have been heard!!!
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...g-in-Patch-4.1

So new wards in all four areas for 4.2 and a new method to sell them... Fearful it's that sketchy lottery system JP players are suddenly in love with, but rolling houses for sale out in waves verses when the patch opens would be fair.

Also, apparently the relocation system is straight up glitching like crazy. Most players wanting to relocate couldn't because the system borked up all on it's own. Also, I'd be boiling hot if my FC rooms poofed away after relocation since that's apparently a thing that's happened to FCs that could move.

[Perogwin]

I already said that the only alternative to hiking up the price is to rebuild the system...

Please understand supply/demand

Being in my late 40s I promise you I understand supply and demand, the problem I had with your post was the fact that you made it sound (even if unintentionally) that gil was free flowing on all servers and your idea was a better solution then simply retooling the whole thing. My misunderstand could simply be the fact that it is 4:30 am and a little tired and I am impatiently waiting for the servers to come up.

The fact Yoshi has now responded that they will increase the supply with more wards will probably solve the problem on some medium and most low pop servers like mine but won't help a great deal on the high pop ones

If it doesn't solve the issue I simply say remake the entire system from the ground up and make everyone happy, it seems that we agree on that point at least so we will leave it at that.

[Perogwin]

In what way would instanced housing make it easier for everyone who wants a house to get one?
If there are problems adding enough additional wards, then surely there would also be problems adding enough housing instances.

As the person below you said, instance housing is a completely different animal then what they have now. Each housing area would only need to have one ward. Clicking on a house door would open an interface like they have when entering the apartments or fc rooms and then you would just go to "your" instance of the house. This is far less taxing on the servers then you think. Many MMO use this version of housing with great success, Elder Scrolls Online is a wonderful example of this system. I was actually surprised when FFXIV went a different way.

[Clint_Beastwood]

Better to rebuild housing from the ground up at this point. Just make instanced housing and let anyone who wants a house be able to get one at a reasonable price....problem solved! The houses have no bearing on actual game play and are just for ascetics/roleplay, so why not let everyone have access. Many other MMO do it this way and it works great.

That's not true, workshops and airships are content gated behind owning a house, which isn't just for aesthetics.

[Clint_Beastwood]

And for the record, in SWTOR, I have 4 houses on my own instanced planets.

[Perogwin]

That's not true, workshops and airships are content gated behind owning a house, which isn't just for aesthetics.

Valid point, I am sure they could accommodate that in a rebuild somehow. My comments focus mainly on personal housing which is really all I care about. Other games have separate types of instanced housing for both personal and guild (FC), I am sure that could be used here as well. In a perfect world personal workshops/airships would be available for the individual as well (though only limited to a single one as opposed to a fleet of 4), but that is a different battle I am NOT interested in fighting right now.