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    It's not, as we;ve been saying repeatedly - the 'Ivalice' in Hydaelyn is simply a name reference used for a long dead nation that has zero connection to the FFT/FFXII version. It and other FFT/XII names and references are just that, names and references that have been reused with actual connection to the original. Just like Crystal Tower not being FFIII's final dungeon or Costa del Sol and Gold Saucer are not the FFVII places somehow transplanted into Eorzea. This is in keeping with comments SE made ages ago on the subject which well and truly puts the final nail in that coffin:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gildrien
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    Q: A lot of names from Ivalice have been mentioned such as Dalmasca, Belias, and Zodiak. Is there some kind of connection between Hydaelyn and Ivalice?
    A: Maehiro: To be absolutely clear, there is no direct connection between FFXIV’s Hydaelyn and FFXII’s Ivalice or even FFXI’s Vana’diel. They are not the same world in different dimensions or time—they are their own separate worlds. However, there are certain connections to people or objects that appear in these other worlds that figure into the story of FFXIV as it has been conceived and is being told.

    Yoshida: We’ll be revealing more as we move forward.
    Nothing that I've seen with the new raid contradicts this - they're just name and concepts that are fanservice references to FFT and XII but are fully within FFXIV's lore and thus have no actual connection to FFT and XII at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    Now from a developer standpoint, I think it was just lazy. You have the CREATOR of these games involved with this project who isn't even bothering to attempt a coherent story. Even these characters Ramza and Alma are so ridiculously similar to the originals that it's almost a joke. If you were to have conjured the memories of Ramza and Alma themselves, that would make sense. But the person conjuring these ideas isn't them, it's Durai. And he, of all people, should know the damn story.
    What exactly did you find incoherent about the story? Seemed plenty coherent to me.
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    Even when multiple developers and writers, including Matsuno himself, have gone on record stating that Hydaelyn and Ivalice do not share a direct connection, some people are just too obsessed to believe one doesn't exist. I don't get it, and have given up trying to convince them otherwise.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    "There is no hope in stubbornly clinging to the past. It is our duty to face the future and march onward, not retreat inward." -Sovetsky Soyuz, Azur Lane: Snowrealm Peregrination

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    FFT and FFXII did not take place on Hydaelyn.

    Events SIMILAR to those of FFT and FFXII did take place on Hydaelyn. Similar, but not exact.

    Do not expect exact matchups between things that happened in FFT and FFXII, and things that are revealed in these raids. The raids are inspired by those games, but the authors are not bound to any of the canon events set by those games.
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