RANT: All the outcries for frustration and disappointment may become naught. :(

[DravlinKuraiyoru]

What they need to do is restrict personal housing to one house per account per player as the housing system is only going to be a pain point until SE says the code is going into effect on a date, and forces those with many houses to get rid of them for gill before SE automatically destroys their excess houses.

I would also be keen on letting players that want to build an entire subdivision be able to buy an instance of a complete ward for themselves as a crazy expensive thing so someone that wants to have that much land has an option to get that much land without screwing over the rest of us.

I'll accept any solution that provides a supply for a virtual and potentially limitless feature of the game fitting with the demand. I won't pay to provide support for content I am excluded from.

[DravlinKuraiyoru]

I think a lot of folks are ignoring the simple fact that everyone pays real money to keep the houses running, not just the few that have access to them.

Edit; not saying that about anyone specifically. More toward the defenders of our broken system. Ya know, the one you and I bought for them.

[Almagnus1]

The problem with increasing supply is you just give more land to the real estate moguls that are sucking up all the land. There's not going to be an effective solution (even instanced housing) until the real estate moguls are dealt with - preferably by stripping them of their houses and not banning them but at this point either is fine.

[Xikeroth]

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Restrictions and countermeasures need to be in place to combat this before more housing is released.... restrict how many houses someone can own on one account. Make it too risky for someone willing to buy land for insane amounts to try. An example would be like having a 12hr-72hr random timer (not displayed) in place before the land can be purchased(after relinquishing of the land that is)... make it too risky to try to buy from another, because by the time the land goes up for sale half the server will know it is about to go up for sale, they just won't know WHEN. The scalpers exist because people are willing to buy... increase the risk on the buyer and it may lower the amount of moguls we have.

[Almagnus1]

Restrictions and countermeasures need to be in place to combat this before more housing is released.... restrict how many houses someone can own on one account. Make it too risky for someone willing to buy land for insane amounts to try. An example would be like having a 12hr-72hr random timer (not displayed) in place before the land can be purchased(after relinquishing of the land that is)... make it too risky to try to buy from another, because by the time the land goes up for sale half the server will know it is about to go up for sale, they just won't know WHEN. The scalpers exist because people are willing to buy... increase the risk on the buyer and it may lower the amount of moguls we have.

IMO you need to take the heavy handed approach that will shut down the scalpers and other real estate moguls.

Right now one account can hold up to 16 properties - one personal house for each character on the server, and then one for each one man FC those characters are in. By reducing the personal house to only one per server, you reduce their capacity to only 9. By effecting FC rules (like minimum members in the FC), you still only reduce capacity to about 9. By putting both in place, they're down to like 2 or 3 if they're creative with friends.

If everything you're talking about is added on top of what I'm advocating, the entire industry is dead.

Exactly as it should be because these type of shenanigans belong in EVE Online - NOT FFXIV.

[Xikeroth]

Oh, I'm aware of that. However being a customer of SE's MMORPGs since 2003/2004 and being around since 1.0 beta I know SE doesn't understand how to do anything heavier than what I mentioned. For the record I DO agree with 1 house per account.

Unless of course a repeat of 1.0 mass subscriber loss happens... which it won't. SE just ignores the 9million registered accounts who are no longer subscribed.

[MistakeNot]

Oh, I'm aware of that. However being a customer of SE's MMORPGs since 2003/2004 and being around since 1.0 beta I know SE doesn't understand how to do anything heavier than what I mentioned. For the record I DO agree with 1 house per account.

One house per account (and server) would be acceptable IF all my alts will be able to use that house just like my main character can. Otherwise, nope.

[Miracle_Diva]

Given the fact Yoshi P himself has stated before they want the players who own houses to feel "special" for owning one, this reality we are living is not a "problem" as much as it is its actual "design". To put it simply, our outrage for not having housing content is exactly what was intended.

Having that said, I personally don't believe anything will ever change in this topic, no matter how many posts we make expressing our unhappiness.

Then I want part of that money that they take from us for content I can't use back cuz they decided to make small part of players feel *special*.
We pay same sub.

[Saraphin]

I think, overall, the issue is: we all pay the same sub. we all gather Gil and while apartments are "novel" in concept, the subfees go towards quite a lot. This includes Housing Districts and the servers they go on. There is no small amount of issue in many other MMOs when it comes to housing.

There are plenty of ways to code it so that additional wards are added when a previous one fills up. Instancing the housing more would suck (no neighbors...not that i've really seen too many) but...it might be worth it for doing 'personal' wards, while leaving the brunt of the 'physical' wards for FCs. Just a small thought there. you can add people and invite people. Ie: make a party to show it off, or make it so people in your FC can visit without an invite; or even make a 'key token' key item for visitors where you register people's houses.

[Lumidus]

I think they will wait it out until people calm down and forget about housing.