Why you should play a healer!

[Gemina]

I dont know why you think I dont optimizate it, but if you try to compare a dungeon with O4S then yeah, dungeons are w/e content.

You leave that impression because you're complacent. You're complacent because you think it's OK to give new healers bad advice because the content is just a dungeon.

The only one comparing a dungeon to a savage raid is you. And when you make such comparisons and are also dismissive towards how a healer might feel despite the content being casual, you also leave the impression of being an elitist.

Spamming your biggest cures is not only an inefficient use of you MP, it's also the least optimal way to play the job and role. Any healer worth their salt knows this. Especially if they have savage clears under their belt.

[Clouse_Cleyra]

You leave that impression because you're complacent. You're complacent because you think it's OK to give new healers bad advice because the content is just a dungeon.

The only one comparing a dungeon to a savage raid is you. And when you make such comparisons and are also dismissive towards how a healer might feel despite the content being casual, you also leave the impression of being an elitist.

Spamming your biggest cures is not only an inefficient use of you MP, it's also the least optimal way to play the job and role. Any healer worth their salt knows this. Especially if they have savage clears under their belt.

Ok I give up

[Magnedeus]

I mostly tank and i only have one thing to say to healers. If you wanna just heal, just heal. If you just wanna heal and throw in some dps that's fine too. I don't judge. You do your thing, i do mine.

[Cynfael]

No, they aren't entirely different. Whether the timer is enforced by a player activated mechanic or an encounter mechanic, everything in this game boils down to taking the optimal action with respect to the present factors. This also applies to DPS (a rotation is quite literally a script).

I’m not sure why you’re so intent on splitting hairs with this; what exactly in my original statement merited your response? Did you truly believe I (or pretty much anyone) was about to argue that paying attention to mechanics was unimportant?

No, healers do not observe buff timers or positional attack requirements to maintain their functionality. The difficulty of the role comes from factors other than inherent mechanical complexity. That was my point.

[Saraphin]

I mostly tank and i only have one thing to say to healers. If you wanna just heal, just heal. If you just wanna heal and throw in some dps that's fine too. I don't judge. You do your thing, i do mine.

hear hear. it's a comfort zone thing for each healer, mostly and understanding tanks are a good start.

[tinythinker]

I mostly tank and i only have one thing to say to healers. If you wanna just heal, just heal. If you just wanna heal and throw in some dps that's fine too. I don't judge. You do your thing, i do mine.

I usually do damage to help me heal or because I've got nothing else to do.

A lot of the healer/tank drama comes from people having different levels of experience/skill/commitment to the game and different ideas of what makes group content fun. Maybe a "mellow/casual" vs. "intense/serious" toggle in the DF UI would help?

[Jerichai]

I’m not sure why you’re so intent on splitting hairs with this; what exactly in my original statement merited your response? Did you truly believe I (or pretty much anyone) was about to argue that paying attention to mechanics was unimportant?

No, healers do not observe buff timers or positional attack requirements to maintain their functionality. The difficulty of the role comes from factors other than inherent mechanical complexity. That was my point.

Kinda hilarious you say I'm splitting hairs when you're the one intent on creating unnecessary hierarchies of timed encounter mechanics....

[Cynfael]

Kinda hilarious you say I'm splitting hairs when you're the one intent on creating unnecessary hierarchies of timed encounter mechanics....

You took a statement about timers (is there anyone else here who read that in the context of this discussion and thought I was alleging that healers didn’t need to pay attention to mechanics? Just wondering...) and made an argument out of it.

In the immortal words of every grade-schooler ever, “You started it.”

[Ghishlain]

You took a statement about timers (is there anyone else here who read that in the context of this discussion and thought I was alleging that healers didn’t need to pay attention to mechanics? Just wondering...) and made an argument out of it.

In the immortal words of every grade-schooler ever, “You started it.”

I knew you were talking about class timers and not mechanics based around individual fights.

I wouldn't even count mechanics of a fight as timers. I just count them as... well, mechanics.

[Jerichai]

You took a statement about timers (is there anyone else here who read that in the context of this discussion and thought I was alleging that healers didn’t need to pay attention to mechanics? Just wondering...) and made an argument out of it.

In the immortal words of every grade-schooler ever, “You started it.”

So please, do enlighten me on what exactly is different to your vague statement of "timers" and reacting to any other condition in an encounter. You're the one stating there's some significant difference in your original post.