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  1. #51
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    Zayaat Kha
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    This is why more wards won't solve the issue. Players need to be limited to one house per account.

    Alternatively, I keep kicking around the idea that all the wards should be player housing and that the FC's should get 'special' housing that is basically an instanced version. Think of the Sky Pirate base during the Mhach quests- an FC could get a house that's basically a base awarded to them by their Grand Company in any number of locations for the sake of 'peacekeeping' activities in that region. Every FC gets a house/base (customization just like the houses) that are unique to the area they choose, and houses open up to the masses.

    If we're to have to compete between FC houses that serve a utility to a larger population, why not make it so that every FC (for a price and once a certain rank is hit), gets one without question or argument?
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    Rymmrael Bhaldraelwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llus View Post
    First, the quote about "I didn't get a plot, it's not fair that THEY did!" was aimed at this thread and others like it. Many many people complaining about other people getting plots and reselling them, entire wards filled with private ownership etc, then this one came out
    First, not only did I own a home before this patch, but I was one of the lucky few able to relocate it when the servers came up this morning. So it's not 'salt' about not being able to get a plot but rather, as anyone familiar with my posts in this sub-forum could tell you, my continuing frustration with the individuals or groups of people who flip houses for profit or hoard multiples when while others go entirely without.

    Quote Originally Posted by Llus View Post
    D*ck behavior and outrageous. Because these people bought plots that everyone else had the same access to. Doesn't matter if they're all from the same FC. Doesn't matter what their motives for buying were. To several people in this thread the fact that they BOUGHT the plots is D*ck behavior and outrageous. In the end, this thread isn't about addressing the problems with the housing situation. There are MANY other threads that are doing that. But this kind of salty click-bait thread won't help the situation any more than putting an arbitrary restriction on who can purchase houses.
    It seems we are both doing quite a bit of assuming here, and I apologize for my part in it. Although I did preface my post with 'if it's true,' I should have stipulated the specific conditions I was referring to.

    When the OP posted that an FC was buying up an entire ward I assumed it was an FC who, working as a coordinated group and through the use of multiple alts and shell FCs, was buying up all of the plots to hoard control of a district under the single banner of their FC either for the prestige/ego-stroke of doing so or to resell later. If they are merely individual players buying up homes near their FC base, then my comment is not applicable, as they certainly did nothing selfish or unsavory.

    So, shame on me for not checking for myself before posting (as I would have done had I access to my gaming PC earlier today) or asking for the OP to clarify the situation. Shame on you for assuming I was just angry because I didn't get a plot and was lashing out at individuals lucky enough to do so.
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    Milloux Allard
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    This sounds like a slightly different situation than the infamous Ward 12 on Mateus?

    If the folks in this FC coordinated together and managed to buy the ward, without resorting to cheats like one-person FCs or speed hacks and without the intention to hoard and flip, I really don't see the problem? I am the first to be right there with everyone about how unfair and crappy the housing situation is. That wards weren't overall increased, and that SE refuses to address this situation in a meaningful manner isn't fun. It sucks. This whole thing sucks.

    But I'm not going to deny other folks their want for their own personal houses-- they just happened to be lucky enough to get them with their friends. Seriously, damn! (Who among us wouldn't want to be grouped up in a neighborhood with our friends and FCmates? Congrats, guys! Now please have fun with those houses, make them pretty, and enjoy them. We'll all be sad if they sit empty.)
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    Last edited by Nalette; 10-11-2017 at 08:23 AM.

  4. #54
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    Gravton Pentest
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    Not even mad, that's impressive. Think about the coordination that required. I always want my fc to own a ward.
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    Shiro Terkhev
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    Odin
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    If they are separate players and bought it for use, then there is nothing left to do but congratulate them. I mean, what the hell does being in single FC have to do with eligibility to buy a plot?
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    Novak Djokovic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casualty View Post
    Agreed. They are no better or worse than any other person trying to buy a house. They are just more organized.
    Or they were lucky enough not to have the stupid launcher have a stroke when they tried to log in. I stayed up most of the night looking into how to best secure a house, made sure I was in the right place, saved up for months, was at my desk & ready to log in as soon as server opened. Multiple lobby errors, multiple instances of being kicked back from the "Now Loading" screen into the lobby again.

    Not a lack of organisation on my part.
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    Senu'a Retkha
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    It's impressive, but all I can think of right now is the reports of dodgy behaviour. They might not have engaged in such, but chats and the like were going off about people using trades to block people from purchasing.

    Sure if they're all individuals and all that there's nothing really "wrong" with them getting houses, just the odds of them managing to get sixty houses in the ward without missing a single one seems pretty low when they managed it during the house war.
    Could have traded with people in other wards maybe, but still it's odd.
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    Luna Fell
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    SE should just ban resellers and buyers who make speculation on such products. Like rmt customers.

    They can buy all the plots and then sell them X10 the initial price. They become more rich at each new wards. Do and repeat until SE make a clear sentence. I don't want to be rude but buyers has to be blamed also.... If no-one buy, there will be not trafic to deal with at the beginning.
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  9. #59
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    Kro Lex
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    Why is it a problem if an FC bought out a ward, those are individual players - why shouldn't they have their housing? Super impressed with the level of coordination. I wonder if they gave fair warning of the ward they would be going for, would have been the smart thing - I would have avoided that ward as well.
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    Akira Scientia
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    60 friends all bought housing near each other. They are living the dream. Congratulations to them.
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