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  1. #1
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    Blackweaver's Avatar
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    Kailia Greenheart
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 100

    The State of Housing is Attrocious

    The housing in this game and how it works, is just attrocious. Last nights patch, has done a lot to highlight the major issues, which are, but not limited to:
    • Community size
    • Demand
    • Time limit to even attempt to get one
    • greed
    With my server, Balmung, it's massive. And there's just not enough houses to supply the FC's and individual players. My own FC, was looking forward to trying to upgrade from a small in Lavender beds, to a medium in lavender beds. But no mediums opened for relocating to. And the window to do such, is insanely thin. If you aren't patch and in game at 3am exactly, forget about even getting a house. People should not be forced to stay up to 3am, in vain hopes of a house.

    And to make things worse, is how private houses share the same wards as FC houses. Things wouldn't be so bad, if there were separate housing wards for private player homes, and separate wards for FC's. We've got some pretty greedy FC's on Balmung that work a black market on reddit, to buy up housing plots, just to sell them, hence circumventing the deal making in game since selling houses, is against the rules.

    Wanna know how to rid us of the black market and stress? Lord of the Rings Online when I used to play it, had a system in place that if only 2 or 3 houses remain in a given ward, the system would automatically generate 3 new empty wards for people to buy houses in. That would kill the illegal black market easy. Separate FC's and Personal houses into their own wards. That would help alleviate problems too. Something has to give. As I said, 3am with no time after that, to get a house, it's ridiculous, and a major problem.
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    Maku Haikasu
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    It isn't just Balmung. Mateus sold out in 20min as well.
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    Tem Saris
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    be happy, u even own a house. odin was sold in 5min.
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    Lele Inoch
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    I think all servers more or less sold out within 15 min.
    Odin was sold out (a mid pop eu server mind you) in 10 min
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    Luna Tsukihime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    I think all servers more or less sold out within 15 min.
    Odin was sold out (a mid pop eu server mind you) in 10 min
    10 ?

    Sorry, but try more like 2 and a half minute.
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    Not to be mean, seriously. I am sure free transfer people ate those little servers alive for housing today.

    To the OP it isn't Attrocious, it is what SE makes and a significant portion of this player base supports. They will all be excited next time the dev team is in a seasonal event or they try selling them a plushie. To large a portion of this community thinks that this game is great and any problems are corporate and have nothing to do with design.
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    Kailia Greenheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Not to be mean, seriously. I am sure free transfer people ate those little servers alive for housing today.

    To the OP it isn't Attrocious, it is what SE makes and a significant portion of this player base supports. They will all be excited next time the dev team is in a seasonal event or they try selling them a plushie. To large a portion of this community thinks that this game is great and any problems are corporate and have nothing to do with design.
    Sorry but any system that makes you stay up to 3am at night, with a window of under 1 minute to get a in high demand feature, is attrocious. Other MMO's that have housing, even the ones that have turned to garbage in recent years like lotro, still had better systems in place, than what we have right now. This is a design problem, not a corporate one. Corporate has it's own issues yes, but the design of the system as it is right now, is a major problem that needs to be addressed.
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackweaver View Post
    Sorry but any system that makes you stay up to 3am at night, with a window of under 1 minute to get a in high demand feature, is attrocious. Other MMO's that have housing, even the ones that have turned to garbage in recent years like lotro, still had better systems in place, than what we have right now. This is a design problem, not a corporate one. Corporate has it's own issues yes, but the design of the system as it is right now, is a major problem that needs to be addressed.
    Honestly, this comes up every housing addition. I just can't see it as evil, I see it as they don't care to fix it and we have to suffer or else. I have complained every patch FC/Personal/added wards/private rooms. As have others, nothing changes. They don't even make an effort to make the bad system they have a little better. To many people defend this team since 2.0, I don't see them changing.

    Honestly if you get anything more then a vague answer and a move on from the dev team. You guys deserve credit.
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    Yunalesca Syl
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 100
    Leviathan had every plot in Shirogane or otherwise taken within 4-5 minutes after the servers came up. I find it hysterical that there's actually a feature in the game that lowers the price of the plot if no one buys it after a certain amount of time. Has that ever been used on any plot on any server ever?
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ChewieFlakes View Post
    Leviathan had every plot in Shirogane or otherwise taken within 4-5 minutes after the servers came up. I find it hysterical that there's actually a feature in the game that lowers the price of the plot if no one buys it after a certain amount of time. Has that ever been used on any plot on any server ever?
    I can relate. I snagged a medium (smalls ended up being too cramped for my designs and I don't need a large). Let me explain how it ended up for me:

    While enduring extreme paranoia and stress (both of which shouldn't be even conceivable for VIRTUAL HOUSING) I logged on as fast as I possibly could. Login queue of 43. By the time I got on the medium I sought after was already taken, as well as the second and third I looked at by sheer dumb luck. I have a notepad of the location of every medium in Shirogane and I managed to finally use the relocation feature on the fourth medium I checked. I live in Hawaii so servers came up at midnight for me but mainlanders have 3-6 AM for North America and that is awful.

    I mean sure I'm happy with my new house but even I am not happy about this housing system. I started in 3.2 and I barely even got a house in the start of 3.4 (two patches to get a house?). The whole concept of plots decreasing in value is silly when there's no possibility of that ever happening. There just isn't enough housing.

    People are yelling at Square Enix that they didn't get a personal or FC house (both of which should be available when desired) and as far as I am concerned their anger is justified. I just don't know when or if this is ever going to change considering how long they've dragged this flawed housing system on for. I should not have to endure THAT kind of server up ever again, nor should anyone.
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