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    21 guild leves per level at 43

    Leveling is still very flawed in FFXIV.

    I have a level 43 gladiator. Now there are several problems with leveling in this game. I have done exactly 1 exp party got about 3 levels in about 6 hours well thats a lot faster then leves. I flagged myself for a party ever since the party search function came out as a result only have got into 1 party. Otherwise I am doing leves for exp.

    1 level 40 leve at lv43 on average is about 4000 exp. 3000 exp for compilation + 1000 for killing mobs.

    I need 81k exp to get lvl 44. So thats 21 guild leves to level. Each guild leve takes around 15 min to finish on average. So thats 5 hours and 15 min per level. Keep in mind these things are not fun. Exp requirement goes up each level in turn requiring you to do more leves

    The 1 party I had was pretty good exp per hour. I got 3 levels in 6 hours. 3x as efficient as doing guild leves.

    Here in lies the problem there just aren't enough people on the servers to support making many exp parties at all. I check who is seeking usually 3-4 people in my range usually all melee for the most part. A viable group cannot be made with that.

    Is SE going to do something about the exp because grinding boring gulid leves for 5 hours per level isn't very fun. There is no way I am doing like 20 of these in a row I get bored of doing them after about the 4th one usually.

    SE planning on doing anything to help the leveling situation?
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    The problem is that most people aren't using the party search system.
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    Guildleves are for casual playing--playing on spare time where you can't give a chunk of time to a party. If you're solely leveling up solo on an MMO, you're doing it wrong. Moreover, leves give you gil and gear rewards, which warrants more limited EXP gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    If you're solely leveling up solo on an MMO, you're doing it wrong.
    Did you bother to read his entire post?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    there just aren't enough people on the servers to support making many exp parties at all. I check who is seeking usually 3-4 people in my range usually all melee for the most part. A viable group cannot be made with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    Did you bother to read his entire post?
    Did you read the rest of mine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    Guildleves are for casual playing--playing on spare time where you can't give a chunk of time to a party. If you're solely leveling up solo on an MMO, you're doing it wrong. Moreover, leves give you gil and gear rewards, which warrants more limited EXP gain.
    Its not doing it wrong. Lack of players on a single server and lack of tools to promote group leveling. IE no cross server dungeon finder yet.
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    Player Crica's Avatar
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    21 eh?

    used to be 16 before patch 1.20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clair View Post
    I don't have my Gladiator that high but I've done level 30 and 40 grand company leves for my Lancer and Conjurer and got around 10-12k exp per leve. I raised the level of the monsters to either equal level or above so I could chain and would usually get chain 3-4 no problem. Guardian's favor was used too. Without guardian's favor I can't remember but it definitely wasn't anywhere near 4k exp for a 15 minute company leve. This was after 1.20 so it should be still possible, I imagine if my Conjurer could chain easily enough a Gladiator could too.

    Experiment a bit. I know that now if I'm doing a leve and I'm not getting 10k+ exp with favor it's not worth my time and I'll go back to one I know that will.
    For the most part gladiator is very weak damage class. If I set the level up to the point where the mobs can chain my level or higher they roll me pretty hard. I do not do enough damage to kill them before they kill me. One of the pure damage dealing classes probably do have an easier time doing stuff on a harder difficulty from what I heard from friends but not gladiator for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    For the most part gladiator is very weak damage class. If I set the level up to the point where the mobs can chain my level or higher they roll me pretty hard. I do not do enough damage to kill them before they kill me. One of the pure damage dealing classes probably do have an easier time doing stuff on a harder difficulty from what I heard from friends but not gladiator for sure.
    There's something wrong with this, I solo'ed my GLA from 45 to 50 right after patch 1.20 release, doing both normal and GC leve. I never had any problem with mobs 1-3 levels higher than me. Granted I do use some cross class skills, they are Protect, Stoneskin, Secondwind, Invigorate and Cure, but that's pretty much all you can cross class nowadays because of the severe restriction patch 1.20 brought. The Riot Blade combo do very very big damage and it's easy enough to pull solo, except on the Toads as they are too big that they block your entire screen and you don't know where you are. You may want to check where you are doing leves, because I think Ul'dah still receive a big penalty on EXP reward upon completion. I was doing leve in Gridania and without GA the normal EXP reward with speed is around 5.5k - 6k alone, not counting mob kills. With GA and kill type GC leve, I could get close to 15k EXP per leve.
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    Last edited by MariyaShidou; 01-06-2012 at 08:23 AM.

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