We need a statement from the developers

[Aerlana]

Housing was released > people complained 'why didn't you just make it like XI's mog houses' > they add it > people continue to complain.

Apartment are not house. some wants house.
The matter is, SE shows the candy, and make it really limited... lot of people wants a candy, but only 2160 could have. So SE after just nearly 2 years (... the game just turned 4 year old right?) they add 720 candies. not enough... What would you say if housing was in fact candies for children? think it is normal or cruel?
And more, limited candy => black market candy. some people who dont cares about candies will buy one... an sell it to anyone for just...3 time, 5 time, 10 time the original price.
Yes SE says "it is forbidden" but... if it exist, it is because SE does what it needs to exist...


Ok, not everyone player wants the house. just" really many" but there is one thing to add to people wanting house : FC wanting house.
remeber that FC house = personnal house + room for all members + some specific craft and the airships. so, SOME GAMEPLAY...


Now we have 2880 plot... not even 3 thousands!

Lets watch the last census : https://ffxivcensus.com/
Just watch activ character per realm (dont care the number created character... just the activ one)

the lowest number is Zeromus with 5426 (maybe i did miss another ok...) even if there is some reroll, and some people who dont cares housing...
there is 2880 plots for all of them AND their FC.
And even more, those who dont want any house could be allow to get one if they want.



You speak about cry when housing was release? 250M for a large on some legacy serv, 500M on others. and non legacy serveur, was from 50 to 100M for a large. for the cheaper large! 50M is now the biggest price.
BUT in 2.1 there was not so much money on servers. was hard to buy 1 house, even after they lowered all legacy house (down to 100-125M for the large) was hard to get some house...
Now? i dont farm, i play as a filthy casual, before i played many time, so i have 128M...
People cried because housing get too high prices.

And then, yoshida explained... "we didnt have server to get all people buying house" what?! the prices was this way to limit the speed people bought them, so... they could add server to handle all houses?

Then, personnal housing. when the FC one was release, yoshida said "Personnal house will be cheaper than FC house" ... and after personnal house release and some taunt to yoshida about this "you didnt understand, i said that when personnal housing get out, they will be cheaper than FC housing when i spoke" ... i could translate it as "Shut up"

and finally, more money for every player, get to 3x12 ward, all finally bought... They lower the housing prices. (... more money so have to do housing cheaper... logic) and finally add 12 ward when all people are rich enough for at least a small (and many can afford a large with no matter).
5426 activ character for the server with the less people, + their FC, for 2880 plot...


This is why, from the begining we cry againts housing... They dont want to allow investment enough to handle housing, and they consider we have to shutup!

[hydralus]

Apartment are not house. some wants house.
The matter is, SE shows the candy, and make it really limited... lot of people wants a candy, but only 2160 could have. So SE after just nearly 2 years (... the game just turned 4 year old right?) they add 720 candies. not enough... What would you say if housing was in fact candies for children? think it is normal or cruel?
And more, limited candy => black market candy. some people who dont cares about candies will buy one... an sell it to anyone for just...3 time, 5 time, 10 time the original price.
Yes SE says "it is forbidden" but... if it exist, it is because SE does what it needs to exist...

Oh boy here come the food analogies.

[Spirlia]

Apartment are not house. some wants house.

Why can't we have apartments that are the same size as small, medium, and large houses? Like a penthouse? Then increase the amount per housing area, make it so you can choose the size of your apartment based on how much you're welling to spend, and (best case scenario) keep houses for free companies only. Let the people who already have houses buy an apartment of the same size for free. Everything is solved.

[Nihility]

the problem is real houses are extremely limited to the point of not even supplying a small fraction of people that want them. I mean they just increased the available housing by 30% and it was gone before most people could even get past the queue generated in the first 5 seconds of server up. Even all the houses vacated by people moving, I kind of felt bad for all the people standing around the city crystals scanning for vacancies long after shirogane was already filled out

and instanced housing is woefully inadequate, it doesn't have half the utility of an actual house and no outdoors at all and instanced means your not part of a neighborhood at all
heck, even small houses don't really offer adequate utility. Gardening seems to be designed around 3 plots of crossbreeding simultaneously and material supplier+junkmonger is needed for all the useful items

then to add to the mix an FC needs a house to actually do a decent amount of FC activities and even the largest houses are cheap enough for most people to afford solo at this point


It's just like a recipe for catastrophe that should have been very visible before even implementing it

[LunaTsukihime]

Instanced Housing like Bigger apartments and lofts and the like would SOLVE a lot.

Look at PSO2 housing, EVERY player has a free small apartment.
Which can be upgraded to a 3 Room loft, which is huge in comparison.
And a big balcony for gardening.

Saying instanced housing wont be good for neighborhoods is just wrong, people can still go and look at your home as long as you don't lock it.

I'm quite sure SE can pull off something better than this Ward stuff, because it's just not adequate anymore, sorry, but that is the truth.
Also, saying we don't have a right to complain just because we didn't get a house is wrong as well, im not complaining i didn't get a house.

I'm complaining because the whole system needs a serious looking at and some kind of remedy for the prevalent problem.
It just cannot be that every plot is sold out mere minutes after going live, that's not good planning.

You can insult me if you want or tell me that I'm wrong, it doesn't matter, what matters is that the community that looked forward to this has been "cheated", for a lack of better word, out of something many had waited a long time for.

[Zarabeth]

I'm one of those who cares about the wards staying. SE needs to just spend the money to get server upgrades that can handle more wards. They are certainly raking it in with both subscription and cash shop. Put some of that back into what people want. I'd much rather have more housing than new mogstation outfits/mounts/boosts.

You already have instanced housing it's called an apartment.

[BlairYS]

I'm one of those who cares about the wards staying. SE needs to just spend the money to get server upgrades that can handle more wards. They are certainly raking it in with both subscription and cash shop. Put some of that back into what people want. I'd much rather have more housing than new mogstation outfits/mounts/boosts.

You already have instanced housing it's called an apartment.

Except they can't even add more wards for each server based population for odd reasons. 4 years. Nothing.

[Zarabeth]

Except they can't even add more wards for each server based population for odd reasons. 4 years. Nothing.

Nothing odd about the reason they simply don't want to spend the money needed to do it.

[Alael]

Regarding the housing.


A sad Miqo.

I dont like instanced housing i think its a crappy way to fix the problem, The house feels fake with the istancing

[XiXiQ]

There are certainly plenty more cities to add wards, it's time they coughed up and added the servers.