We need a statement from the developers

[HyoMinPark]

No instance housing. I like being able to see my neighbors and thier houses, it creates a community.

A community that 80% (more, actually) of the active player base won't be a part of. Some "community."

Most housing wards on my server (which, for the record all housing was gone--Shirogane AND other wards--in less than 20 minutes, and it is not even considered a "Congested World") are completely dead. A lot of housing wards on Balmung, the most populated server, are completely dead; ghost towns.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Apartments are the instanced housing you're demanding. People do care about the sense of community that wards bring. Stop demanding SE uproot the entire damn system just to please people who will only find something else to whine about in time.

So tell me where I can garden in my apartment? Where can I put my outdoor furnishing? Where can an FC put their company workshop? You get a single room with 100-item limit--that is not "housing." That is a glorified FC room (and FC rooms are actually cheaper, plus you get all the benefits of the house itself, including gardening). But wait. Less than 20% of the active playerbase will have a house, and the majority of the time it will be FC versus Personal.

Apartments are not a solution, so stop saying that they are.


Edit because of arbitrary daily post limit:

You do know that WoW doesn't really have any housing system at all? (Unless you count garrisons, which few people do).
So in at least that regard FFXIV is not only on-par with the likes of WoW, but actually much better.

I wasn't referring to the housing system specifically here; but that was probably poor wording on my part. I was referring to how the developers want this game to be on-par with WoW but they can't even implement things that F2P games have (Glamour Logs, Housing, etc.); it took them this long to implement a way for Chocobo timers to be visible on your HUD, to have a chocobo and a minion out at the same time--or to put commas in the experience bar.... I'm sorry, I just find that unacceptable in 2017. I'm sorry.

[Sandpark]

A community that 80% (more, actually) of the active player base won't be a part of. Some "community."

So tell me where I can garden in my apartment? Where can I put my outdoor furnishing? Where can an FC put their company workshop? You get a single room with 100-item limit--that is not "housing." That is a glorified FC room (and FC rooms are actually cheaper, plus you get all the benefits of the house itself, including gardening). But wait. Less than 20% of the active playerbase will have a house, and the majority of the time it will be FC versus Personal.

Apartments are not a solution, so stop saying that they are.

Well if you are going to be that way, then why are raid communities in the game?

80% of the playerbase doesn't do raids. Should SE stop developing raids?

Instanced apartments should be instanced houses with yards, gardening, outdoor furnishings, chocobo stables, larger item limits.

Dyes shouldn't be NPC or AH based, they should be a palette book you can upgrade via achievement or completing something. Glamours should be book without the requires specific X to glamour specific Y. Maybe require global generic prism.

It sounds like I don't understand the anger, but I sort of do. I couldn't get a SB house. SE will end up changing housing, I am just wondering if anything feature wise would have to be gutted in order to achieve everyone getting a house. Why can't a better instanced solution exist beside the current system is my question.

[Rysir]

No instance housing. I like being able to see my neighbors and thier houses, it creates a community.

Nothing builds a community like being a total ghost town. When the only jump of activity is a random squad of people running in to attack the FC target dummy I think SE knows where they can shove non instanced housing.

Is it truly worth it to be able to see someone's house and say "Damn thats an ugly ass house" when the ability to do so creates this dumpster fire that we call a housing system?

[Velisra]

No instance housing. I like being able to see my neighbors and thier houses, it creates a community.

Nothing says "community" like the the wedge between the "haves" and "have nots" of the housing feature. The FFXIV community is fairly nice overall, until you look at housing. Housing, since there's not enough to go around, creates a divide.

I'd be happy to just have an apartment, but I can't garden except in pots, I can't have a yard, and it's not big enough. Sorry, but an apartment is not good enough. A true instanced house would be fine for me, since I don't care about the "community" aspect of it all anyway. Some people don't care about that, so it would be a great option for some folks.

I was lucky this morning, and got a better plot in the Beds than the one I let demo about six weeks ago because I thought I'd just quit playing for a while. I know a lot of others weren't that lucky, and I still think the housing system--at least the acquisition system--sucks, and SE needs to fix it.

[Igninox]

bump and boost this thread. need a statement indeed!

[CatfishCassie]

If I wanted instanced housing, I could play any number of MMOs that have it. I could still be playing Rift or ESO or EQ2, etc. But I haven't played a game since Star Wars Galaxies that actually has neighborhoods to live in where you can see and hang out with your neighbors. Don't start asking for SE to make FFXIV a cookie-cutter MMO like the others. Just start asking that they be more responsible in ensuring that they provide enough housing for everyone who wants to have that experience. The subs of everyone in a given housing ward pay the cost of creating that ward in less than a week... there's no reason they can't have more wards. It's not like we're asking them to redesign the wards with additional houses, because that *would* require a lot of development time and money.

[RayneLittlewinkle]

Bump for this thread. They really do need to let us know their vision going forward regarding housing

[BlairYS]

There really needs a statement of the reason why they did this and why they can't really add wards without other players assumption of "server capacity" and "money" because of old post back in 2.3-2.4. The story from back then and now are different.

[Pence]

Housing was released > people complained 'why didn't you just make it like XI's mog houses' > they add it > people continue to complain.

[BlairYS]

Housing was released > people complained 'why didn't you just make it like XI's mog houses' > they add it > people continue to complain.

Except the FFXIV apartments didnt get released from 2.1 and didn't stick with it. They added plots of houses. They are proving that they are saving money and trouble because they are lazy to add more wards.