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  1. #71
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    Skylla_Delphi's Avatar
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    Skylla Delphi
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Server Ultros. I stayed up the ENTIRE NIGHT... Kept refreshing the lodestone every few mins or seconds and had my finger on the Log In button till 6am EXACTLY. Logged in took few seconds to load to character screen where i didnt even see my character then got in que... I was 624 in que. Took mere mins to log in but by the time I loaded in there was nothing but a few smalls left and not enough time to get to them before they were bought. This is a totally unfair system and Im looking for a replacment for FFXIV. Which is my first MMO and I fell in love with. Play even more than my bf. But having a large home was my only goal for the past 2-3 years. The only reaso. i have wifi is to play this game. So thanks SE for helping me to save money. Hey theyre like car insurence... Big talk, high priced and good for nothing! #ExtraSalty #YouWouldBeToo
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  2. #72
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    I dont think making them cost more is going to help. And it makes it more unfair. Making gil in this game isnt easy for everyone.
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  3. #73
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    EthanParcival's Avatar
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    Ythun Pfarsyvil
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Yeah, I'll let my subscription lapse after I get MSQ down and 24 man raid. I see no point staying subscribed working on crafters and gatherers to make money, coz there's nothing to spend it on other than minions, and glam doesn't do it for me.

    I don't mind dumping 50 million in a house and crafting for it, at least it gives it a purpose. But I see no point staying subscribed between "patches" riding the markets to have a ton of gil and nothing useful to spend it on. Over 100 million in imaginary coin and nothing to spend it on in SE's make-believe land.
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  4. #74
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    sorawild34's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Merlin Waltz
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    Famfrit
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by WoolyBear View Post
    I've loved this game for years, and never ever seriously considered stepping away no matter what other issues it has had until today. This was absolutely the biggest failure I have seen since I started at 2.0 launch. How did no one on the dev team see this coming? If they're going to artificially limit the supply AT LEAST make it expensive enough to go along with it. Years ago when housing was first released plots sat empty on my server for weeks and months after because VERY FEW people had the money for it. Now the cost of a large house appears to be pocket change for a very large amount of people. If you're not going to add more housing at least make housing costs more reflective of the actual supply/demand involved. 100-300M for larges, 50-100M for mediums, and 25-35M for smalls would be good ranges.
    That is how it was originally after they allowed housing to be privet. And people complained that it was too much so they lowered it...
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  5. #75
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by AnakhaSilver View Post
    Ultimate will never be available to everyone outside of unsync much later because of the skill floor. To be entirely blunt, it's an apt comparison in this case because both require a dedicated effort and amount of time. In one it's to acquire the skills to even unlock it, in the other it's massive amounts of gil.
    This is incorrect. Savage and Ultimate Savage do take skill, yes, but skill is something people can develop with enough dedication. Everyone has the ability to unlock, run, and successfully complete Savage and Ultimate if they put their mind to it; some people it will take longer than others, but everyone can do it. Housing, on the other hand, all boils down to luck. Not skill; not dedication; just luck. Earning gil in this game isn’t that hard. Doing MSQ and Sidequests give you plenty, as do Daily Roulettes, to purchase a small plot by the time you complete all of them. I know a person who doesn’t craft; he just sells items his retainers bring him from Quick Ventures and makes money. Crafting isn’t that hard to do either, even though the leveling process can be and is tedious. Same with gathering. But, I digress...

    But, in the end, whether or not a person obtains a house is all down to luck. Were they lucky enough to be #147 in queue, or #1,470 in queue? Were they lucky enough to not get hit with a 5606 or 2002 error, or lucky enough to get multiple errors? Were they lucky enough to load just a millisecond faster than someone else, and click that Placard before the 20 other people rushing towards that same plot? It’s all luck, and it shouldn’t be that way.

    ~20% of the current playerbase will ever own a house; in reality, however, it’s even less, because one has to not only consider Free Company housing, but also individuals that own multiple houses on the same account. Less than 20% of the nearly 900,000 active characters will own a house. 100% of the active playerbase can unlock and access Savage. >20% of the active playerbase will ever access and own a house. Savage versus Housing is not an adequate comparison.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnakhaSilver View Post
    I mean, I got a house a few months ago from being patient and waiting, so. You're acting like no one ever leaves, and that skill plateaus don't exist. Not everyone is going to be good enough to beat Savage, no matter how hard they try, and the attitude that anyone can do it if they try hard enough is one I'm frankly sick of.
    Considering that many people log in once every 44 days just to save their house, and then never log in again until another 44 days have passed, housing opening up is a rarity, and, again, it is all based on luck. There are two mansions on my server in the Lavender Beds. One is a personal, and the other is a solo FC with a level 1 character in it. They have been sitting there empty for well over a year. Empty. For well over a year. That is just ridiculous.

    You were lucky enough to spy a free plot. Just like I was when I purchased my FC house. I literally just happened to look at the Lavender Beds wards and see a small plot open for 3mil. I booked it to that plot and managed to snag it, but that was after months of checking, and months of waiting. Why should players be forced to wait for housing because the developers are seemingly either ignorant of the demand, or just blatantly unwilling to fix this broken system?
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 10-12-2017 at 01:46 AM.
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  6. #76
    Player
    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WoolyBear View Post
    If they're going to artificially limit the supply AT LEAST make it expensive enough to go along with it.
    This will literally fix nothing. The problem is that there are nowhere near enough houses. Not that they're cheap. Increasing the default prices would make house flippers sell at an even higher overly inflated price. Additionally this would exclude even more players from having the chance to get a house. More restrictions will absolutely not fix the housing issue. We need more options, not less.
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  7. #77
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    Zero_syndicate's Avatar
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    Eydran Seigward
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    Brynhildr
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    Paladin Lv 64
    It really sucks and is unfortunate that you didn't get a plot. But there are MANY MANY players that didn't get a shirogane plot but ALL had the same intent of logging in as soon as servers came back up to try and get a plot. I know saying "try one of the other housing districts like Ul'dah, Gridania, etc." is not something you wanted nor want to hear, I wouldn't either. But like the opening night of Star Wars there is a limited amount and not everyone will get to be apart of that experience. It REALLY sucks, but like any limited product this thing happens.
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  8. #78
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    Estriella_Faerie's Avatar
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    Estriella Faerie
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    i stayed up all night to get a house for my wife and i. we worked hard to save up for it too. but when the servers went live again i was stuck in queue for nearly twenty minutes and by the time i was on every single housing plot on the server had been bought up.
    Sadly, the 20 min queue is not the real issue. We were 3 players from our FC trying to get a Shirogane house. We were pinging the servers to know when they would come online, we all entered with less than 200 players in queue (one with less than a hundred). We were in the housing ward in less than two minutes after the servers went online. Yet all the mansions were already taken by the time we could move in-game. This game is not missing a few more wards. The problem is much much bigger than that...
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  9. #79
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    ArchangelSavior's Avatar
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    Xavier Savior
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    Leviathan
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    Monk Lv 90
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ill-more-Wards I did made this one month ago I knew it this is happened

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...tanced-housing Please sign up!

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...se-Wards-House they moved to dead server left behind me sigh!.... how stressful and upset! but I don't want to move, Levi server is better

    anyone knows how long days Auto-Demolishing without build house? I can see the empty plot without build house >_>
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  10. #80
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    Chigo_Sensei's Avatar
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    Chigo Sensei
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Already cancelled mine, only subbed for Eureka and a house, but since I got neither of those two, I have decided that after October, I will be taking break for few months (might log in for the christmas event).
    That's exactly how it is for me too, Eureka and Shirogane were the only 2 things I was looking forward to in 4.1, gonna take a break when my sub ends at the end of this month until 4.2
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