Probably Cancelling My Subscription

[HyoMinPark]

Ultimate will never be available to everyone outside of unsync much later because of the skill floor. To be entirely blunt, it's an apt comparison in this case because both require a dedicated effort and amount of time. In one it's to acquire the skills to even unlock it, in the other it's massive amounts of gil.

This is incorrect. Savage and Ultimate Savage do take skill, yes, but skill is something people can develop with enough dedication. Everyone has the ability to unlock, run, and successfully complete Savage and Ultimate if they put their mind to it; some people it will take longer than others, but everyone can do it. Housing, on the other hand, all boils down to luck. Not skill; not dedication; just luck. Earning gil in this game isn’t that hard. Doing MSQ and Sidequests give you plenty, as do Daily Roulettes, to purchase a small plot by the time you complete all of them. I know a person who doesn’t craft; he just sells items his retainers bring him from Quick Ventures and makes money. Crafting isn’t that hard to do either, even though the leveling process can be and is tedious. Same with gathering. But, I digress...

But, in the end, whether or not a person obtains a house is all down to luck. Were they lucky enough to be #147 in queue, or #1,470 in queue? Were they lucky enough to not get hit with a 5606 or 2002 error, or lucky enough to get multiple errors? Were they lucky enough to load just a millisecond faster than someone else, and click that Placard before the 20 other people rushing towards that same plot? It’s all luck, and it shouldn’t be that way.

~20% of the current playerbase will ever own a house; in reality, however, it’s even less, because one has to not only consider Free Company housing, but also individuals that own multiple houses on the same account. Less than 20% of the nearly 900,000 active characters will own a house. 100% of the active playerbase can unlock and access Savage. >20% of the active playerbase will ever access and own a house. Savage versus Housing is not an adequate comparison.

I mean, I got a house a few months ago from being patient and waiting, so. You're acting like no one ever leaves, and that skill plateaus don't exist. Not everyone is going to be good enough to beat Savage, no matter how hard they try, and the attitude that anyone can do it if they try hard enough is one I'm frankly sick of.

Considering that many people log in once every 44 days just to save their house, and then never log in again until another 44 days have passed, housing opening up is a rarity, and, again, it is all based on luck. There are two mansions on my server in the Lavender Beds. One is a personal, and the other is a solo FC with a level 1 character in it. They have been sitting there empty for well over a year. Empty. For well over a year. That is just ridiculous.

You were lucky enough to spy a free plot. Just like I was when I purchased my FC house. I literally just happened to look at the Lavender Beds wards and see a small plot open for 3mil. I booked it to that plot and managed to snag it, but that was after months of checking, and months of waiting. Why should players be forced to wait for housing because the developers are seemingly either ignorant of the demand, or just blatantly unwilling to fix this broken system?

[Calisto]

If i was on a high population server, sure. Most of my FC was pretty confident that I'd be able to land something, but obviously this expansion drew on and KEPT more people on than the previous one.

Anyways, this is a broken system. I don't really know how you can defend SE for not doing anything about it for the playerbase, but you do you. Keep rubbing up against the company, I'm going elsewhere unless things change.

[Naaura]

Same here. Me and my FC have been dearly in need of a house for crafting to help our new players and provide a place to stay. We spend almost a year saving up and planning. We even woke up early and pre-downloaded the patch before the servers went live. The moment we logged in, ALL the plots were gone...
This definitely left me feel heartbroken with a taste of unfairness from SE. Limited or not for servers to handle, a lot of mmos already do this without a problem in their infrastructure despite millions of players.
I have nothing to look forward now because most of my plans were to be working in housing crafting and garden farming. So I unsubbed, with a slap in the face.
Despite it all, I do not know when I will come back. I already unsubbed between the 2nd month of SB release until recently to prepare for housing.


-Sigh-

[Calisto]

Then why are you arguing with us??? *facepalms*

[Amenian]

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It is not an apt comparison. If someone wants to do Ultimate, they can push for they and do it. It'll be tough, but it is available to everyone who really wants to do it. In housing, if there aren't any plots for sale, it doesn't matter how much you want it. You're not getting it.

As to a fix, I admit I'm biased, but I posted an idea to that here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/1020#threads/347785

[AnakhaSilver]

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To be blunt: yes, you are. Your idea doesn't really work as well as you'd like it to. A better idea is to implement instances you teleport to alongside the neighborhoods instead of your idea. Yours wastes too many resources implementing it and then later updating it.

Also, as for housing, I waited two years and managed to grab one eventually, so. /Shrug/ It was before this, so your argument doesn't stand and in fact bolsters mine. "You can eventually do it if you're patient." Just like with your argument for Ultimate and how it's not apt, it's a matter of being patient and opportunity. Eventually someone WILL lose their in-game house or relinquish it.

[AnakhaSilver]

I'm pointing out a fatal flaw in your argument. Which, if you'd actually take time to read instead of simply reacting, you'd get.

[Lumidus]

I'm pointing out a fatal flaw in your argument. Which, if you'd actually take time to read instead of simply reacting, you'd get.

It's not a good comparison at all. 1 is available to anyone that wants it bad enough to form a group and push strats with a team. The other is actually LIMITED. No matter how hard you fight or push for a house, can't get one

[Clint_Beastwood]

I'm pointing out a fatal flaw in your argument. Which, if you'd actually take time to read instead of simply reacting, you'd get.

There's no comparison. One requires resources that are available (time, desire, skill), one requires resources that are not available. No amount of time, skill, echo, static groups, video guides, gil, ilvl, is going to place additional housing plots in the game.

This isn't a hard concept. One content is available to all players that want to achieve it. The other content isn't available at all until SE intervenes.

[AnakhaSilver]

There's no comparison. One requires resources that are available (time, desire, skill), one requires resources that are not available. No amount of time, skill, echo, static groups, video guides, gil, ilvl, is going to place additional housing plots in the game.

This isn't a hard concept. One content is available to all players that want to achieve it. The other content isn't available at all until SE intervenes.

I mean, I got a house a few months ago from being patient and waiting, so. You're acting like no one ever leaves, and that skill plateaus don't exist. Not everyone is going to be good enough to beat Savage, no matter how hard they try, and the attitude that anyone can do it if they try hard enough is one I'm frankly sick of.