Implement a lottery for house plots

[Moonlite]

Yeah, I second this. This is a terrible, terrible idea.

Seriously curious, it is the same garbage just piled different. Current system you RNG luck out and login before someone else, lottery RNG you get picked over someone else. Last batch of wards multiple PCs plus accounts and different locations coordinated tried to get a FC house. The login system is not so great that it is anything but chance. Also they won't have extra GMs/devs on watching the purchases of the house to try to make sure people aren't abusing what little system is actually in place. I don't think either answer is good I just don't see proof that the old login RNG is better.

Also people that say larger FCs have an advantage in lottery. How each FC gets a number a number is drawn one to one. This isn't about people getting extra chances its about everyone who wants one getting one chance. The only argument you could make is someone with alts at appropriate level would get more then one.

I am going to go out on a limb (a small one). The login server will have a horrible que and will repeatedly kick people out so being 200 in que means nothing. I haven't seen anything from SE to suggest that they have planned anything to stabilize logins? If I have missed it please link for others. I am sure the only post will be "if maintenance is done early we won't be bringing servers up early". I truly feel sorry for people getting up early or staying up trying to deal with this system.

[Renik]

Forget about instanced housing and bad “solutions”, they should just make more wards, we are not in the same situation we were 3 years ago, the game has more subs, a cash shop, and we even have to pay 30$ for each fan fest stream, they have the money, we just have to DEMAND it.

[Amenian]

People are going to be left out as it is. This just reshuffles to give a larger amount of people a chance which it should. Talk about it solving the crisis overall is another topic because SE will not deal with the real issues before the new ward is released. The foreseeable future we all know the out lining problem will persist. This is the best solution in the context of the current system as is over the same people taking plot after plot.

But it doesn't give a larger amount of people. It gives the same amount of people but takes out any semblance of controlling your own fate. The only positive I can see to this method is it takes away the ability of trolls to open trade windows to interrupt sales.

[Vladmiere]

But it doesn't give a larger amount of people. It gives the same amount of people but takes out any semblance of controlling your own fate. The only positive I can see to this method is it takes away the ability of trolls to open trade windows to interrupt sales.

You are wrong it gives EVERYONE that wants a plot a better chance then how its currently implemented. I and about half my friend list will nto even have a chance because of scheduling. The people that would really be burned are those who are going to be engage in the initial rush once servers are brought up. It gives more people a chance to be in the running for the same amount of plots as those who will be camping the spot for server up.

Yeah, I second this. This is a terrible, terrible idea.

Terrible idea but care to illuminate as to why it is a bad idea to you?

[Vahlnir]

You are wrong it gives EVERYONE that wants a plot a better chance then how its currently implemented. I and about half my friend list will nto even have a chance because of scheduling. The people that would really be burned are those who are going to be engage in the initial rush once servers are brought up.

It changes nothing. With your system it'd just be completely random. Letting players CHOOSE is the best course of action. That wouldn't change the demand or the number of plots. It sucks, I know, but this wouldn't make it better. The amount of harm it would do would outweigh the good...and there isn't much good to come from it. Players would be angry...very, very angry.

[Crysten]

You are wrong it gives EVERYONE that wants a plot a better chance then how its currently implemented.

First come first served (ie: a lottery on who gets in the login queue first) for 720 plots vs. a lottery for 720 plots.

No, seriously, how does a lottery increase anybody's odds? If anything, it'd lower your odds because those who weren't willing to wake up/take time off would sign up to also get a shot. <_<

You didn't think this through at all.

[Vladmiere]

First come first served (ie: a lottery on who gets in the login queue first) for 720 plots vs. a lottery for 720 plots.

No, seriously, how does a lottery increase anybody's odds? If anything, it'd lower your odds because those who weren't willing to wake up/take time off would sign up to also get a shot. <_<

You didn't think this through at all.

What? I am not sure you understand with what I even posted. It will lower the odds to those who can make that window of time to log in and attempt the rush. What it basically does is expand that window out for a longer period giving more people time to put in their bid.

But it's not fair and that is what people are trying to point out. In regard to FCs as it stands right now ALL FCs are on equal footing, and you can bet that any FC that wants a place or to upgrade has been planning this for months. Thus they are guaranteed to have someone with time off. With your system you put smaller FCs at a severe disadvantage to larger FCs that can just throw numbers at the lotto system. While it sucks, the way we have it now quite literally puts all FCs and all individuals on as equal a footing as possible.

Fair assessment. This type of change at this late in the game is pretty much not going to happen. I would be for future plots having a form of lotto system in place. And I think most small FC's would be inclined to agree with me if they gave it a bit of thought. Most small FC's I know of who got housing got it through people reselling plots at blown up prices. It is working against smaller Free Companies but this system gives possible chance at earning housing on more fair prices then having to shell out over a billion gil for a large house on Balmung. And in all honesty most casual FC's will be disadvantaged no matter what is done with the system as is.

[Vahlnir]

What? I am not sure you understand with what I even posted. It will lower the odds to those who can make that window of time to log in and attempt the rush. What it basically does is expand that window out for a longer period giving more people time to put in their bid.

What it does is make an already...not so ideal system even worse. You don't seem to realize this.

[Crysten]

What? I am not sure you understand with what I even posted. It will lower the odds to those who can make that window of time to log in and attempt the rush. What it basically does is expand that window out for a longer period giving more people time to put in their bid.

More people bidding for the same thing = lower odds of success...

I know you're on Balmung (and a Mancat) but do try to keep up.

The only discussion that should be happening regarding housing right now should be "when are they going to realize that instancing is the only realistic way to make everyone happy?"

Not "what is the best way I can get an advantage over those nasty other people who already own houses?"

[Amenian]

You are wrong it gives EVERYONE that wants a plot a better chance then how its currently implemented. I and about half my friend list will nto even have a chance because of scheduling. The people that would really be burned are those who are going to be engage in the initial rush once servers are brought up.

So what really concerns you isn't the problem of not enough housing, but that you personally won't be able to be on to get one. Gotcha. You're not really interested in solving the problem at all, just in what you can get out of it.