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    Riyshn's Avatar
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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonhand View Post
    The Skills have CDs you know?... so that would be me casting 6 lustrate... if you are that desperate that you need 6 lustrates... they ain't enough to save you...
    You'd be surprised, actually. The extra Lustrates was a fairly common use for it back in A2S.

    And yes, AF skils have cooldowns, but none of them are longer than 45sec. Indom amd Soil are both 30sec, Excog is 45sec, and Bane is... 10sec, I think? Not that Bane's CD is ever really relevant. The way stacks work out with Dissipation looks like this:

    Aetherflow
    > 15 seconds to use 3 stacks
    Dissipation
    > 15 seconds to use 3 stacks
    Aetherflow
    > 45 seconds to use 3 stacks

    So if we're in a situation where we're actually using every non-Bane/Lustrate/Energy Drain skill on cooldown, that's 2 Soil/Indoms, 2 Excogs, and only the 3 stacks from Dissipation itself left to non-CD usage.

    Even outside that specific situation, Energy Drain is still a large part of both our MP enconomy and DPS potential, and any time you can save your cohealer having to cast Cure II/Benefic II by using Lustrate instead, you should; it is way more cost/time efficient.
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Riyshn View Post
    You'd be surprised, actually. The extra Lustrates was a fairly common use for it back in A2S.

    And yes, AF skils have cooldowns, but none of them are longer than 45sec. Indom amd Soil are both 30sec, Excog is 45sec, and Bane is... 10sec, I think? Not that Bane's CD is ever really relevant. The way stacks work out with Dissipation looks like this:

    Aetherflow
    > 15 seconds to use 3 stacks
    Dissipation
    > 15 seconds to use 3 stacks
    Aetherflow
    > 45 seconds to use 3 stacks

    So if we're in a situation where we're actually using every non-Bane/Lustrate/Energy Drain skill on cooldown, that's 2 Soil/Indoms, 2 Excogs, and only the 3 stacks from Dissipation itself left to non-CD usage.

    Even outside that specific situation, Energy Drain is still a large part of both our MP enconomy and DPS potential, and any time you can save your cohealer having to cast Cure II/Benefic II by using Lustrate instead, you should; it is way more cost/time efficient.
    I think the issue is more that, if I recall the initial discussion and dev response around HW launch, Dissipation was intended to be SCH's big emergency cooldown. The problem with Dissipation as an emergency skill is that there is a high probability that the SCH will have recently used most of their AF CDs before needing to activate it, in which case they are left with no faerie, extra Lustrates, and a healing buff that doesn't boost said Lustrates.

    Can Dissipation be used strategically? Sure. Would it be much nicer if it didn't directly work against other parts of the SCH kit? I really think so.

    SE should give up on the idea of Dissipation being an emergency CD; if you're already in trouble and need however briefly to weigh the pros and cons of hitting your so-called emergency button, something is wrong with it. 4.1 tweaks should make Dissipation far less painful to use, but the skill itself needs a rework to help it be a more useful and natural part of the SCH kit.
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