[Request] AST MP cost reductions please

[BillyKaplan]

It's nice that SCHs are getting them and all those nice mp changes, but ASTs are still with the inflated mp costs to our aspected heals that were introduced in SB. The Ewer is not a reliable source of mp because it's rng based which leaves us only with Lucid Dreaming. Meanwhile both other healers have mechanics to replenish their mp on top of the role skill and mp cost cuts.

[Johaandr]

Uhh no
Always combine lucid dream with celestial :T
Its easy to manage MP only if u know what ur doing lol :T

[BillyKaplan]

Uhh no
Always combine lucid dream with celestial :T
Its easy to manage MP only if u know what ur doing lol :T

So I need to burn two cooldowns just to keep up, ok, great, ty. It's not like the other healers have mechanics that give them back mp basically just from healing or something

[Felis]

So I need to burn two cooldowns just to keep up, ok, great, ty. It's not like the other healers have mechanics that give them back mp basically just from healing or something

I don't think there exist a healing spell, that recover MP of the caster

[BillyKaplan]

I don't think there exist a healing spell, that recover MP of the caster

To elaborate on what I meant before in regards to Assize - the more aggressive you are with your heals as WHM, the more lilies you have, the lower the cooldown on this baby gets, the more MP refreshes you get over the same time-frame. And that's alongside Lucid Dreaming.

[Mirateski]

the more aggressive you are with your heals as WHM, the more lilies you have, the lower the cooldown on this baby gets,.

I get where you're coming from, and you absolutely burn assize on cooldown outside of prog, but the ideal whm barely touches the cure spells. Hell even in the early savage turns that I've healed (1 and 2s so far) I only need to touch the cure button if I've picked up one of those "cooldowns for wyrm tail? naaah" tanks in this week's pug.

Also, Adlo's mp cost is so restrictive you can run dry trying to get a crit from it BEFORE A PULL. Its cost is so high that the OUT OF COMBAT mp regen tick isn't enough.

AST only has mp problems if they're spamming gravity or their cohealer is allergic to raidwide heals, and neither of those cases is cause to lower mp costs.

[Snow_Princess]

To elaborate on what I meant before in regards to Assize - the more aggressive you are with your heals as WHM, the more lilies you have, the lower the cooldown on this baby gets, the more MP refreshes you get over the same time-frame. And that's alongside Lucid Dreaming.

You do see he said SPELL?
anyways ast is fine

[Johaandr]

So I need to burn two cooldowns just to keep up, ok, great, ty. It's not like the other healers have mechanics that give them back mp basically just from healing or something

I dont know if you're being sarcastic but i dont want to make a large note about "how to heal as ast".
Ast got the cheapest mana cost among three healers. Adlo was expensive for being a weaker shield compared to ast noct aspected benefic. But they are fixing that one for 4.1.
You shouldnt be overhealing but rather precasts heals from aspected or helios. Example if 8 people has 80% hp they really dont need to be healed if Hot or shield is in effect for the next raid aoe dmg.
I dont know what you are struggling with.

this thread should be moved to healer role discussion

[MisterLucie]

So I need to burn two cooldowns just to keep up, ok, great, ty. It's not like the other healers have mechanics that give them back mp basically just from healing or something

You don't have to use Celestial JUST for LD. Have a good AoE card stored? HoTs up? Pop lucid dreaming and extend everything. It's all about timing things right and getting the most bang for your buck.

I regularly will use an AoE balance/spear, diurnal Aspected Helios, lucid dreaming, and then pop celestial for massive extended buffs on everyone and huge mp regen right after white hole/before black holes on o4s. You can even do it on a pull (except without the helios) and go hardcore aggressive on your dps because you'll have so much MP to use up.

[Bacent]

Astro base heal costs less than Scholar base heal.
Astro group heal has the 150% heal potency for barriers, Scholar doesn't at the moment and scholar's costs more.
Astro has constant instant cast heal spells while Scholar has to use stacks in order to use instants.
Astro has all around cheaper spell costs.

And when I was leveling Astro, compared to when I was leveling Scholar, Scholar had way more MP issues than Astro did. It was pretty easy to heal as Ast/Whm compared to it, even more so with bigger pulls.