Any word on SCH healing potency?

[Transient_Shadow]

After running an endgame dungeon as a whm its hard to see sch as even functional. Especially with Lilly's potency not making up for anything anymore.

If they're not going to buff our personal healing potency then they could at least give Lily a much needed buff by upgrading her embrace and other spells.

[MahoSenshi]

Dungeons are fine. Especially endgame dungeons, where you can just Excog -> Rouse -> WD -> Union and keep DPSing most of the time.
Raids OTOH can be a pain when co-healer neglects their role. Its much easier to mostly solo heal in O3S, for example, on WHM, than on SCH.
We can only wait for some changes...

[Laerune]

4.1 should bring some changes for some of the classes, I reckon we will see it then.

[Sebazy]

IMHO SCH's DPS potential in dungeons is a bigger issue than their slightly anaemic healing potencies.

[Transient_Shadow]

IMHO SCH's DPS potential in dungeons is a bigger issue than their slightly anaemic healing potencies.

well that as well but in my experience with higher healing potency comes a bigger window to dps. but a buff to our dps would be beneficial as well... I've actually switched to blm in in the field because sch dps is so low.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Sorry, don't agree. The only change they need to make at this point is to lower the insane cost of Adlo and Succor. I think SCH is very powerful still, but at the same time, a lot more balanced than it was in HW.

[Teraluna]

Sorry, don't agree. The only change they need to make at this point is to lower the insane cost of Adlo and Succor. I think SCH is very powerful still, but at the same time, a lot more balanced than it was in HW.

It will still be regarded as the third in line healer until some attention grabbing adjustments happen to it.
- such is the way with well publicized nerfs to a class (ala 4.0)
You get the outcry, which of course grabs people's attention - and sets their perception of the class.

Smaller subsequent boosts, even a series of them, don't have the same headline impact as large one off nerfs. So people still steer clear of the class, especially as there are two others widely regarded as being good to have in the group.

This is what major changes do to a class - Overdo them, as happened to the Sch in the initial 4.0, and you then need an equal amount of headline adjustments to get people back on board with it.

As a prime example look no further than Astrologian - initially regarded as the third in line, the poor relation to the other two.
It got headline changes and what is the perception now?
They could have slowly improved it through a series of adjustments - but it simply wouldn't have had the same impact.

Players tend to run with the herd when it comes to perceptions. So changing one person's mind about a class isn't going to cut it.
- Only attention grabbing changes do that.

[Dregenfox]

WHM are currently only favored in o4s due to progression/low gear levels. AST/SCH is still the optimal healer duo, so I'd be careful about buffing SCH when it's already very strong, as it might push out WHM entirely.

[technole]

Fey Union is pretty darn good, like you can practically leave it on a tank getting battered and DPS crazy on the biggest dungeon mobs available in the game. So the whole lack of potency thing is a sham. For extra bonus get Rouse+WD up before you tether away. Easy mode.

SCH Dungeon DPS is 10x better now because of spam Miasma II, it used to be miserable without.

[Dregenfox]

Fey Union is pretty darn good, like you can practically leave it on a tank getting battered and DPS crazy on the biggest dungeon mobs available in the game. So the whole lack of potency thing is a sham. For extra bonus get Rouse+WD up before you tether away. Easy mode.

SCH Dungeon DPS is 10x better now because of spam Miasma II, it used to be miserable without.

For sure, the bigger the pull the better SCH can get. I'm not gonna deny how awesome Thin air + holy is, but for wall-to-wall pulls SCH will out-DPS WHM because of faster cast time on miasma II + DoT, no fall-off, and the additional effect of Bane aoe. For those kinds of pulls SCH can beat out monk/ninja/sams etc in DPS.

Healing isn't an issue either because Miasma lets us weave unlimited lustrates, and for wall-to-wall pulls you should have a minimum of 6 AF stack to use + fairy + dissipation.