Egi Glamour Update

[NinjaTaru72]

I\\'m sooo sure the art department has their hands full working on job fixes...

/s....


You people... The "fix the job instead of making more egi" is the stupidest thing I\\'ve Hearn in a while, different group of people working on it designs than working on class actions/balances.

I have been waiting for new egi since before... 2.2 or so... Originally they promised us "oh yeah, we plan to give you a Levi egi and a ramu egi and a Shiva egi, we think it would be cool...." Then it was "oh well the 3 egi really cover the bases and when we do new ones we want them to have a use so give us time to figure out a use for each one"

[NinjaTaru72]

at one point it was "well it\'s unfair to give smn new skills like adding egi and not giving other classes something too"
Then it's "oh well we decided that we're just gonna give you glamor of ramu Levi Shiva and other egi"
And then at like 3.x it's "well here a few recolor of carby instead of new egi like we promised years ago before Heavensward even came out."



So Ive been waiting, and waiting, and waiting. Every time we got a primal I was all "oh Yay, maybe they\'ll finally release the egi... Or at least the glamor."

It's time they start doing what they said they would years ago back in 2.x and give us our other primal egi. I don\'t care if they are glamor or not. I want to be able to pull out a ramu egi zone or a Leviathan egi, or Shiva,.. You get the picture.

Far too long they dragged smn along with empty words...

[Soge01]

Hmmm, makes me wonder if in 5.0 we'll get new egi. Probably will get a new egi glamour in later patches, but I'm still at least a little hopeful for a new egi or two at some point. ^^

[Laerune]

Hmmm, makes me wonder if in 5.0 we'll get new egi. Probably will get a new egi glamour in later patches, but I'm still at least a little hopeful for a new egi or two at some point. ^^

SE already said no new EGI, maybe a summon like Bahamut (shows up stays for few seconds then leaves), but a new EGI wont be happening, SE has said this many times.

[dinnertime]

I want more Demi summons than Egi. How it works makes you feel like an actual Summoner, way more than an Egi does because you summon them once and forget about them the whole time unless it dies.

They can add the 6 ARR Primals as Demi summons which you rotate through so not all of them are useless (or undesireable) unlike Ifrit-Egi in most fights or Titan-Egi in anywhere but solo content.

Demi-Bahamut itself has problems and lacks abilities but it has potential if they resolved those issues, meanwhile there's not much they can do with the Egi summons anymore.
In my opinion they should put the effort in making new Egi/Egi glamour into that instead because it benefits more than just the aesthetic, but also gameplay.

[SoloWingMetatron]

I want more Demi summons than Egi. How it works makes you feel like an actual Summoner, way more than an Egi does because you summon them once and forget about them the whole time unless it dies.

They can add the 6 ARR Primals as Demi summons which you rotate through so not all of them are useless (or undesireable) unlike Ifrit-Egi in most fights or Titan-Egi in anywhere but solo content.

Demi-Bahamut itself has problems and lacks abilities but it has potential if they resolved those issues, meanwhile there's not much they can do with the Egi summons anymore.
In my opinion they should put the effort in making new Egi/Egi glamour into that instead because it benefits more than just the aesthetic, but also gameplay.

More Demi Summons would be quite fabulous! Demi-Bahamut is definitely the greatest Summon we have right now. But I feel if we were to get more Demi Summons, they should be all Elder Primals. I think for the regular Primals they should remain as Egi and continue to be introduced via the glamours. I just kinda like the distinction between the two. It makes Demi-Bahamut seem more special. Like a Grand Summon. But I'd happily welcome a Demi Summon of all Primals if that's the way SE choose to go with it. I'd love it if all my Summons were full blown Primals like Demi-Bahamut.

In terms of Egi viability though. Since SB hit. I find I'm using Ifrit just as much as Garuda. Contagion is no longer the OP ability it used to be, and with the changes to Radiant Shield, and that Ifrit seems to proc Ruin IV more. He definitely has become just as good as Garuda in any situation.

[dinnertime]

In terms of Egi viability though. Since SB hit. I find I'm using Ifrit just as much as Garuda. Contagion is no longer the OP ability it used to be, and with the changes to Radiant Shield, and that Ifrit seems to proc Ruin IV more. He definitely has become just as good as Garuda in any situation.

Ifrit is a lot better now, that's true. I use it instead of Garuda for dungeon runs because most of the time I don't want to deal with the annoyance of applying Contagion during boss fights, and Ifrit is more viable for AoE now.

And for the Egi, it's my preference to get them removed since I think nothing about them is impressive or engaging in gameplay or aesthetic honestly.

[SoloWingMetatron]

Ifrit is a lot better now, that's true. I use it instead of Garuda for dungeon runs because most of the time I don't want to deal with the annoyance of applying Contagion during boss fights, and Ifrit is more viable for AoE now.

And for the Egi, it's my preference to get them removed since I think nothing about them is impressive or engaging in gameplay or aesthetic honestly.

I can understand that. There's definitely still a little clunkiness when it comes to commanding the Egi. For me, I just enjoy the fact they're a permanent Summon that doesn't drain our MP pool. Before Summoner was released in ARR. I used to just play it on FFXI instead. When I made the transition to FFXIV. It felt soo good not having to worry about my Egi constantly ticking down my MP. Like the Avatars did in FFXI. Aesthetically though I agree they could look better though. I like the concept behind them. How they're a portion of the Primal's Aether. But I think the design of them could have been executed a little better. But that's another thing Egi glamours could fix I guess. It would be great to see more detailed glamours introduced for Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda.

[Ametrine]

Well, here's a thought, does anyone actually know how much overlap exists between different developments?

This is a devil's advocate argument, but I can believe that the team doing dungeon design and planning would be a seperate department from animation, but wouldn't that animation team have to help with the implementation of new bosses in those dungeons, too?

I mean, this can turn into a "hire more people on this team" kind of scenario if that's the actual case, but I think that kind of thought process is the fear.

It's not that this animator is too busy programming in attack damage algorithms of this dungeon boss to make a Shiva-Egi. Is that they are busy making the boss's model for everyone to see and fight against.

[SoloWingMetatron]

Well, here's a thought, does anyone actually know how much overlap exists between different developments?

This is a devil's advocate argument, but I can believe that the team doing dungeon design and planning would be a seperate department from animation, but wouldn't that animation team have to help with the implementation of new bosses in those dungeons, too?

I mean, this can turn into a "hire more people on this team" kind of scenario if that's the actual case, but I think that kind of thought process is the fear.

It's not that this animator is too busy programming in attack damage algorithms of this dungeon boss to make a Shiva-Egi. Is that they are busy making the boss's model for everyone to see and fight against.

There will most definitely be an overlap when it comes to the development pipeline of content, at least to some degree. The dev team will also have a content priority list for each department that will no doubt be constantly getting updated. However none of that means that Egi glamours have been forgotten about or abandoned.

It's quite possible that the reason we haven't seen any new glamours for 4.1 is because the dev team has been working on these updates to Summoners abilities, and also the size scaling function for Demi-Bahamut. So I am hopeful that we will see more Egi glamours for 4.2. Let's not forget that there are already a number of Egi models implemented into the game, complete with animations and appropriate particle effects. (Ramuh-Egi, Sephirot-Egi, Phoenix-Egi, Shinryu also) That's 4 potential Egi that could be implemented right now with minimal work. Not to mention Moonstone and Obsidian Carbuncle. Which also could be implemented just as easily.