Thread: SMN 4.1 patch notes

From what I'm guessing of the Ruin III change it will replace Ruin and be about the same MP cost, and the Dreadwym Trance boost is not instant cast over reduced MP cost. It's the Ruin IV change I'm not a fan of. instead of another out right change it's still going to be effected by the whole further Ruin buff but only on Ruin II. Personally I feel that Ruin II and Ruin IV need to become AoEs. But I will say the Tri-Bind buff is nice making it and AoE filler skill during DWT. But still I feel there were and are other avenues they can take to fix SMN more.

Really, these were non-factor changes for me. My sig pretty much sums up why. I voted yes for it, obviously, and I'm staying Bard till it happens. But apparently there's roughly 1/3 of the community who disagrees, which also don't post why. Maybe it's cause they never played HW SMN, or cause they did and didn't like the way you had to prime all of your CDs for one moment (despite the removal of Spur/Raging Strikes making it easier). The opener was momentarily hectic but after that it was so much smoother than what SMN is currently. Bahamut still has problems too. Wyrm Wave Addle is still a thing and now you have to pop it on CD, creating even more confusion, ironically. But that is lost on the people who are hurt by these changes the most.

HW SMN asked a lot of you, then gave you a break. You built up for a big moment, then had a wonderful reprieve. SB SMN on the other hand, demands a steady, perfect CD rotation while making you fight against FFXIV's janky animation-over-execution-focused engine at every turn. No amount of numbers and insta-cast skills are going to fix that.

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I believe the Aetherflow Lockouts on SMN should be removed. Made a poll for it here: http://www.strawpoll.me/14041065

Please vote, that's all I ask.

Originally Posted by Karshan

Same. Hate the control room it has become, so many things to plan, in the heat of progress it's harsh. Only in farm mode you can shine a bit.

A lot of us go RDM for progress. Lesser maximum numbers, but the difference between your "shit-I-don't-know-this-fight" rotation and your max rotation isn't so big so you manage good DPS from the start.

To be honest, I'm sure a lot of casters go RDM for progress, depending on how difficult they find BLM and party factors. SMN may be the top DPS of the three, but BLM's peak is far more achievable.

Don't like them lowering ruin III by 30 potency. Already do lower damage than most jobs. See there always making already op classes more op and leaving summoner's out. They should just added sustain and left rest of summoner skills alone. When is summoner ever going to get buff like they give other classes. When see warrior crit for more than have ever seen my summoner crit for somethings wrong. For tank to do more damage than a dps class is just wrong.