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    Kahnom's Avatar
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    4.1 Patch Notes (Preliminary)

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    That seems like a lot more MSQ than we've gotten before.

    Also, Anima Light nerf, thank you!
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    Glam my squadrons ... Gonna takes hours ...
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    Finally the Job Gauge can be simplified so it's not so ostentatious anymore (Shield Oath/Sword Oath's gauge just seemed so out of place in the interface), so thank you SE for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    This whole use Squadron bots instead of actual players ranks as one of the worst decisions made in an mmo. I stress mmo, this is not one of those isolationist single player survival or shoot-em-up efforts - but this kind of thing is moving it in that direction.

    It's bad enough that many of your fellow group players seem to regard even the basic communications of 'hi' and 'thank you' as some kind of penance to be avoided at all costs.

    Now we have taken the next step down this self only interaction, with this you and your bots non-mmo grouping.

    If they see this as a solution to long queue times for certain classes - it might very well be. But at what cost to the traditional overall mmo culture - which this game used to pride itself in? There are far better ways to handle the queue situation than guiding players to be an isolationist bot controller.

    An introduction of a system into a totally inappropriate environment. This is an mmorpg - not Many Player Run Bots Online
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    Last edited by Teraluna; 10-06-2017 at 05:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    This whole use Squadron bots instead of actual players ranks as one of the worst decisions made in an mmo. I stress mmo, this is not one of those isolationist single player survival or shoot-em-up efforts - but this kind of thing is moving it in that direction.

    It's bad enough that many of your fellow group players seem to regard even the basic communications of 'hi' and 'thank you' as some kind of penance to be avoided at.......EDITING
    Oh boo hoo Squadrons can be used in a total of FIVE dungeons, cmon now... Five OLD dungeons that require your Squadron to even be at the same level or higher, a new player would never get this started before they actually run the dungeons themselves. Please stop making a huge fuss over nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VitalSuit View Post
    Oh boo hoo Squadrons can be used in a total of FIVE dungeons, cmon now... Five OLD dungeons that require your Squadron to even be at the same level or higher, a new player would never get this started before they actually run the dungeons themselves. Please stop making a huge fuss over nothing.
    And you don't think this will be added to? That this is the initial introduction? Of course they where going to introduce this with a limited number. That's how introductions work.

    Then - when 'I only want me online' players say it's a great idea in an mmo - this hermit style of playing gets expanded.
    This is an mmo - it's meant to be played with your fellow players - not some automated bunch of npc bots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    And you don't think this will be added to? That this is the initial introduction? Of course they where going to introduce this with a limited number. That's how introductions work.

    Then - when 'I only want me online' players say it's a great idea in an mmo - this hermit style of playing gets expanded.
    This is an mmo - it's meant to be played with your fellow players - not some automated bunch of npc bots.
    Save the fact DPS queues are terrible and you have to wait 30min+ for those dungeons anyway just to have people leave cause they hate those dungeons, this is why people run that braindead PotD over and over to level dps jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blindfoldedkaos View Post
    Save the fact DPS queues are terrible and you have to wait 30min+ for those dungeons anyway just to have people leave cause they hate those dungeons, this is why people run that braindead PotD over and over to level dps jobs.
    As I said, they may well see this as their answer to this.
    But there are far better ways to handle this - see the post on dps queues for some good suggestions from the player base.

    This cannot be a benefit to an mmorpg which should be introducing changes to promote more interactivity, not openly encouraging people in a direction away from this.
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    Last edited by Teraluna; 10-06-2017 at 06:03 PM.

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    Leon Manderville
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    And you don't think this will be added to? That this is the initial introduction? Of course they where going to introduce this with a limited number. That's how introductions work.

    Then - when 'I only want me online' players say it's a great idea in an mmo - this hermit style of playing gets expanded.
    This is an mmo - it's meant to be played with your fellow players - not some automated bunch of npc bots.
    Its meant to be played however a designer wants. There is no unwritten law stating what an mmo should be.
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