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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    And you don't think this will be added to? That this is the initial introduction? Of course they where going to introduce this with a limited number. That's how introductions work.
    The number of dungeons you can do with your Squadron will undoubtedly increase later on.
    But signing up for specific dungeons will not give you the daily bonus you get for roulettes - so people will most likely keep running roulettes just as much (or little) as they have done in the past.
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    Zezera Zera
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    Then - when 'I only want me online' players say it's a great idea in an mmo - this hermit style of playing gets expanded.
    This is an mmo - it's meant to be played with your fellow players - not some automated bunch of npc bots.
    im really hyped for this and i dont see much problem at all oAo it's up to their playstyle if they want to play solo or not..
    can't deny that players will try it when it's up but not like everyone gonna go hermit and dont communicate anymore...lol

    people has their own purpose...can't just say that MMO is only meant to be played with fellow players all the time.
    ofc MMO = online game...but are you saying that people who want solo shouldnt play it?
    some play for story and some play because they're bored and need something to occupy.
    also it will be a good change of pace when you dont want social and just want to be alone at the time.

    i do have FC mates and friends to run contents with but sometime i want to run alone and DF is just like "hi" "tyfp" anyway
    it's not like i need to make friends with all the players i met...
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    Hayley Westenra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    And you don't think this will be added to? That this is the initial introduction? Of course they where going to introduce this with a limited number. That's how introductions work.

    Then - when 'I only want me online' players say it's a great idea in an mmo - this hermit style of playing gets expanded.
    This is an mmo - it's meant to be played with your fellow players - not some automated bunch of npc bots.
    It's for your Grand Company Squadron ONLY. It doesn't affect your own character's leveling, but just your Squadron members with exp and leveling.
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    Tera Luna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    It's for your Grand Company Squadron ONLY. It doesn't affect your own character's leveling, but just your Squadron members with exp and leveling.
    This is the thin end of the wedge, showing the devs thinking direction. It's the first stage of an idea that shouldn't be anywhere near an mmo. You and no one else in a group - absolutely ideal for a single player game.

    I fear the next step will be 'we have expanded the squadron groups to xxxxx content'. That's the thing about thin end of wedges - they get bigger, and by then it is too late to change direction.

    Irrespective of the current limitations of the idea, it ends up with players in complete isolation grouping entirely with npc bots. It shows a thinking direction which shouldn't be anywhere near an mmorpg.
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    Last edited by Teraluna; 10-07-2017 at 07:15 AM.

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    Sylvina Eon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    This whole use Squadron bots instead of actual players ranks as one of the worst decisions made in an mmo. I stress mmo
    Yes becuase MMOs mean you should be forced to team with other players for every moment of your game experience, especially since this game does that for most of the MSQ- oh wait most of it is solo instances..

    On another note I'm liking the class buffs and QoL changes.
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    Yes becuase MMOs mean you should be forced to team with other players for every moment of your game experience, especially since this game does that for most of the MSQ- oh wait most of it is solo instances..

    On another note I'm liking the class buffs and QoL changes.
    It'd actually make sense if Squadrons were even useful for MSQ...but they're not. It's for dungeons you've already done and out leveled. I kinda expected this to be their Prae/Castrum solution they hinted at for 4.1....
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    Sayo Nagae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    It'd actually make sense if Squadrons were even useful for MSQ...but they're not. It's for dungeons you've already done and out leveled. I kinda expected this to be their Prae/Castrum solution they hinted at for 4.1....
    Finally someone who noticed it, lol

    Even assuming a player somehow could grind their way to Second Lieutenant without going level 50+, Wanderer's Palace is the one single dungeon (atleast in the initial wave) you're not gonna be outleveled for, since Second Lieutenant requires a Aurum Vale clear, and Aurum Vale is 47-49

    Even then, if the devs feel like they want to ensure people dont "solo" the game through the Adventurer Squadron, a extremely easy solution would be to just require that you already cleared the dungeon before you can run it with your squad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazaruz View Post
    Even then, if the devs feel like they want to ensure people dont "solo" the game through the Adventurer Squadron, a extremely easy solution would be to just require that you already cleared the dungeon before you can run it with your squad
    That's already a requirement....

    Edit: I lied. '* Players must have unlocked these dungeons prior to entering on command missions.'
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    It'd actually make sense if Squadrons were even useful for MSQ...but they're not. It's for dungeons you've already done and out leveled. I kinda expected this to be their Prae/Castrum solution they hinted at for 4.1....
    It does still seem like it could be leading to a Prae/Castrum solution. It's not really that surprising that the first wave has dungeons with relatively simple mechanics for them to teach their squad AI. But once they have this working, they'll be adding more dungeons, and hopefully we'll get Castrum and Praetorium then.
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    Nic Pay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    This whole use Squadron bots instead of actual players ranks as one of the worst decisions made in an mmo. I stress mmo, this is not one of
    heck I wish we could do more than 5 dungeons with them squads> real people
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