Thread: 4.1 Patch Notes (Preliminary)

Originally Posted by Teraluna

This whole use Squadron bots instead of actual players ranks as one of the worst decisions made in an mmo. I stress mmo, this is not one of those isolationist single player survival or shoot-em-up efforts - but this kind of thing is moving it in that direction.

It's bad enough that many of your fellow group players seem to regard even the basic communications of 'hi' and 'thank you' as some kind of penance to be avoided at all costs.

Now we have taken the next step down this self only interaction, with this you and your bots non-mmo grouping.

If they see this as a solution to long queue times for certain classes - it might very well be. But at what cost to the traditional overall mmo culture - which this game used to pride itself in? There are far better ways to handle the queue situation than guiding players to be an isolationist bot controller.

An introduction of a system into a totally inappropriate environment. This is an mmorpg - not Many Player Run Bots Online

Originally Posted by Mature

Are you just here to moan over meaningless stuff? Be GRATEFUL that at least we are getting extra content. Plus you don't have to do it if you don't want to or like it. What's the problem behind it or in theory you just moaning for the sake of moaning? Please get over yourself and be happy.

Actually I do understand where both of you are coming from, since I have played EverQuest and EverQuest2 for some time since they introduced Mercenaries.

Unlike FF14, in EQ & EQ2, you can make entire boxed parties easily enough. Here, not so much. And many feel that boxes have ruined the social aspect of EQ & EQ2 since a person can essentially play with themselves.

Now, in regard to FF14, this game is way different in many regards. I want to see how the mercenaries work before I make a judgement (though if regular NPCs in duties and battles are any indication ... ugh. Swear they are dumb as bricks) ...

For myself, I see it as a way to help my sister get back into the game. She hasn't played in over a year, and picked up Marauder again. Just starting her first dungeon. So with her as Tank, my husband as Healer, and me as a DPS, we can bring on a Squadron DPS to round things out. Mainly so we don't have some random being a jerk as my sister relearns things, cause she isn't going fast enough.

Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

Actually I do understand where both of you are coming from, since I have played EverQuest and EverQuest2 for some time since they introduced Mercenaries.

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and plus to add u still have to do ur dailies with real people can we have something we can do on our own geez some people not u btw haha

Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

Actually .

The thing that they're missing is the fact these Squadron dungeons are not replacing anything. Its just 5 dungeons that mean nothing and its JUST for you to do more things with your squadron with some rewards unique to it. They hyperbolised the living heck out of the content thats not even out yet. Trust me, people will do it for a month or 2 and forget all about it.

Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

The thing that they're missing is the fact these Squadron dungeons are not replacing anything. Its just 5 dungeons that mean nothing and its JUST for you to do more things with your squadron with some rewards unique to it. They hyperbolised the living heck out of the content thats not even out yet. Trust me, people will do it for a month or 2 and forget all about it.

Oh I getcha. I'm hoping to use it for tank training myself. I like to really take my time and do full runs. So I see it as a good opportunity to learn dungeons.

Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

Now, in regard to FF14, this game is way different in many regards. I want to see how the mercenaries work before I make a judgement (though if regular NPCs in duties and battles are any indication ... ugh. Swear they are dumb as bricks) ...

There are some SB job duties with tank/healer/dps NPCs.. they are MUCH better than before. They do mechanics!! I am interested to see how squadrons end up, though they might start out pretty dumb (which is kinda endearing). I liked the squadrons, but it's way too much stat tinkering to do the higher level missions, so I stopped using them.