Veteran Reward changes - Big slap in the face for long time vets?

[Nerfworthy]

We want players who paid $156 and $624 in their subs to be treated differently. What's the point to pay $468 more if you gain no benefit from it?

I keep seeing people say this, and I can't help but wonder. Do you sub to this game to actually play it? Or do you pay every month in anticipation of the next "reward" you might get from your sub time? Cause it sure seems like the latter to me.

I've never personally cared about the veteran rewards past the free fantasia. The rest is just bonus, and we can still get all those rewards just by a different means. Veteran players literally lose nothing but their seniority bat they wave around if they happen to decide to wear their Leonhart glam.

[ToppeHatte]

Really feel bad for the people who spent hundreds of dollars on this glamour and all they got out of it now is all this useless game time.

[Vahlnir]

It's all well and good making these things easier accessible to players. But why just those that have played for a month or so?

Why aren't those if us who have been here since the start being given new veteran rewards? At the end of the day i no feel happy with my Leonhart outfit if it takes 1/5 of the time it took me and others to obtain. It makes it less special

They are setting up a system that could, potentially, allow us to buy new rewards through achievement points. We don't know this for sure, other than the achievement point system will exist, but to me it seems likely. And if that's the case? Like someone else said, we have a dang good head start. Also, the Leonhart outfit is the ONLY one I personally cared about, so...I will be wearing it forever once I do get my hands on it.

[HyoMinPark]

So did legacy players, why same logic can't be applied to legacy mounts/tatoo/titles etc? They supported the game in its terrible state, but so did veteran players during content draughts between patches when everyone else took a break.

Unequal comparison. Legacy players played a game that no longer exists, and got rewards for their loyalty to a completely different game. Veteran rewards are vanity items rewarded to people who just happen to either fork out more money than others for 180 day subs/game time cards (not everyone with the Squall outfit has actually been playing/subbed since launch), or for people who have played longer, and got to enjoy the rewards for far longer than newer players.

It’s highly unlikely that all these doomsday sayer complaints (“They’re going to do away with the Legacy subscription price next” “They’re going to start offering newbies the WoL Tattoo/Legacy Chocobo”) are actually going to come to pass, and they are ridiculous and misplaced. LEGACY rewards are NOT the same as VETERAN rewards. Quite frankly, this mindset of “veteran exclusivity” is about as ridiculous as the “exclusivity” that is attributed to past event items that took 10~15 minutes of time and minimal effort to obtain when they were in-game—some people got them for free for pressing a single button to breeze through Quest dialogue/do a simple mini game, and others paid $5 USD for it. Big deal. People need to get over it; why does it matter so much?

I’m glad that they’re making rewards like Squall’s outfit easier to obtain. I got my Cloud outfit about a month ago, but I’m not complaining that now it’s easier for newer players to obtain a glamour that they may have wanted as much as I did. At the end of the day, they’re virtual vanity items, and I care more about the time I have played this game and friends I have made and people I have met compared to them.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

They are setting up a system that could, potentially, allow us to buy new rewards through achievement points. We don't know this for sure, other than the achievement point system will exist, but to me it seems likely. And if that's the case? Like someone else said, we have a dang good head start. Also, the Leonhart outfit is the ONLY one I personally cared about, so...I will be wearing it forever once I do get my hands on it.

Provided they improve their achievements to something more engaging like, "beat Halicarnassus Savage without using LB" or "finish this dungeon in x amount of time," this could be a fantastic way to incentivize doing actual content. Yoshida did express interest in ideas like that during his interview with MrHappy a while back. For those playing since beta, they'll have all the 1.0 achievements no longer obtainable, which allows for a considerable head start as mentioned. Frankly, I love the potential this has if done well.

[Vahlnir]

Provided they improve their achievements to something more engaging like, "beat Halicarnassus Savage without using LB"

For those playing since beta, they'll have all the 1.0 achievements no longer obtainable, which allows for a considerable head start as mentioned. Frankly, I love the potential this has if done well.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind achievements like this. They could actually be a lot of fun to do. I reference WoW a lot, but they really do a lot of things right despite their faults. The achievement system is one of them, which is similar to what you mentioned. Also, I've been here since 2.0, so 1.0 players would definitely have a bigger edge than me or anyone else in the same boat. That's fine, they earned it, but even 2.0 players will at least have a bit of an advantage too if this comes to pass so I would call it a win/win for everyone.

[Ametrine]

Really feel bad for the people who spent hundreds of dollars on this glamour and all they got out of it now is all this useless game time.

Lol, for real. I just got the Wild Rose barding and Firion Minion last week and I think the changes are great.

I mean, we complained this stuff was outrageously hard to earn for newer players, which it was, so SE made it easier and are allowing us to keep all rewards we've earned and accounting veteran's times to new system so we can also get the vanity easier.... And players that earned it under the old system complain it's a crap deal for them??

Yeah okay.

[Vahlnir]

Lol, for real. I just got the Wild Rose barding and Firion Minion last week and I think the changes are great.

I mean, we complained this stuff was outrageously hard to earn for newer players, which it was, so SE made it easier and are allowing us to keep all rewards we've earned and accounting veteran's times to new system so we can also get the vanity easier.... And players that earned it under the old system complain it's a crap deal for them??

Yeah okay.

Welcome to General Discussion, where logic is a pipe dream.

[Musashidon]

vets don't lose anything out of this you keep everything, even your achievement points that is needed to get the items now since you already have them all.

while i am not against free stuff it certainly isn't some huge slap to anyone who has subbed for a long time, it simply helps people who want glamour that unlike the rest of the stuff in the game has stayed behind a huge gate that never budged. not only that it also technically hurts new players since they don't naturally get the items even if the cost isn't high its still less then what the vets get in the end.

[SuperionG1]

12 Years of World of Warcraft (would have been thirteen years this November 24,2017) taught me one thing, "Do not Expect Anything" for playing a game. If you like the game, stay subscribed and manage to get a few rewards in the process that's great, if not oh well.