With the Devotion change and upcoming Hypercharge buff...

[Exiled_Tonberry]

I'm sorry but I don't think there will be anything else, or anything more than "tooltip correction for non positionnal attacks"

The last time they announced changes, for the release of Omegaa, the unannonced changes were really underwhelming for everyone.

This. And honestly I think people already know this, but for some reason people love to deny stuff like this to the very last second.

[zuzu-bq]

I'm sure SAM and BLM all love the damage they don't bring as pure damage jobs compared to MCH and SMN.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I'm sure SAM and BLM all love the damage they don't bring as pure damage jobs compared to MCH and SMN.

I've been in a few debates lately where people lose their minds when I suggest Samurai may need a buff soon, even if I openly admit that sounds silly at a cursory glance. Samurai's raw damage just isn't quite enough to beat the synergy its counterparts offer. Granted, it's in a much better spot than Black Mage.

[SpeckledBurd]

I've been in a few debates lately where people lose their minds when I suggest Samurai may need a buff soon, even if I openly admit that sounds silly at a cursory glance. Samurai's raw damage just isn't quite enough to beat the synergy its counterparts offer. Granted, it's in a much better spot than Black Mage.

Samurai isn't nearly in as bad a position as Black Mage is currently (Worse personal damage than Summoner with less support), or even as bad Monk was in Heavensward (Behind Machinist, Summoner, Bard and Black Mage in damage with no self aggro control and with huge TP issues). It's also not likely to fall nearly that far, it's got a fairly substantial DPS lead over the next best personal damage at almost 200 DPS, whereas during Gordias Monk was only above Black Mage by about 20 DPS.

It also helps that the devs clearly like the job, so if it does end up substantially behind they'll probably buff it massively.

[zuzu-bq]

I've been in a few debates lately where people lose their minds when I suggest Samurai may need a buff soon, even if I openly admit that sounds silly at a cursory glance. Samurai's raw damage just isn't quite enough to beat the synergy its counterparts offer. Granted, it's in a much better spot than Black Mage.

SAM need buffs since DRG was massively buffed for no reason. Also SAM is in a surprisingly worse spot than BLM because it has issues on enmity and NIN and DRG are just too good in the melee spots. Even MNK that is in a better spot than both SAM and BLM gets outshide by how overpowered Disembowel and Shadewalker+Trick are. Both's raw damage are too low for the fact they bring nothing to the party.

[Myon88]

Remember how funny it was when people were freaking out over Samurai's damage in the early weeks of the expansion? Dreaming up all kinds of comps with SAM in them and saying things like "This is the selfish dps monk should've been". Guess it wasn't good enough for people in the end eh :^)

Consider also that if you buff SAM (and perhaps BLM) damage to theoretically put them on even footing with raid buff contributions in an 8m setting, you'll make them massively overpowered in smaller sized content because now they're bringing 8m scale firepower to a setting where the jobs with buffs only have 3 other people to buff.

It's not a bad thing for jobs to have niches in different areas of the game.

[zuzu-bq]

SAM damage was actually on par if not higher than some other jobs at launch, then they started buffing, and buffing, and buffing! But I remember a minority of people saying the big damage didn't matter too. But yeah most were overhyping a lot. BLM was actually kinda garbage at launch and all we got was a damn good QoL that made our rotation be what it should've been at launch.

Oh yeah, to be honest I think BLM dungeon damage is too high just like I tought SMN dungeon damage used to be too high by Heavensward. But that's me. Meanwhile SAM and BLM do shine on pugs when excecuted well in a solo level because group coordination in these groups are close to non existent. The issue is that those buffs slowly make them be both undesired even in these groups but also impact less on them too which was pretty much the situation we had with WHM on Creator because of the stupidly strong 10% aoe Balance.

[Waliel]

That's why I'm scratching my head at Devotion getting such a massive buff.

Anything to make it better, as Devotion quite a bad skill right now. I could also see Squenix nerfing Bio and Miasma a bit now, because I think they said the buffs were a quick "fix" while they worked on the bigger issues.