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    Player
    Trufrost's Avatar
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    Rancid Vice
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    Goblin
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    Summoner Lv 70

    4.1 and us healers

    What changes are you excited for? What are you hoping happens?
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    Suzuko Seki
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I wasn't even aware something about 4.1 came out..
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    A revert of the SCH Adlo/Succor MP costs.
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    Aetherstar's Avatar
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    Kitty Dad
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    A revert of the SCH Adlo/Succor MP costs.
    This. Lawd. This.
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    Foxkid's Avatar
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    Ketsueki Bloodfox
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    A revert of the SCH Adlo/Succor MP costs.
    Did they used to be cheaper I assume? I tend to try not to use them except for shielding or an actual group heal because my mana dies when I need the shielding.
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    Well, at least I'm trying...

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    Hestzhyen's Avatar
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    Hestzhyen Voer
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    WHM PI and Confession... confession stacks should last longer or have higher potency at 1-2 stacks. PI would ideally be useful outside of O3S/O4S but niche skills aren't necessarily a bad thing. Have Lilies be a resource worth thinking about without making them RNG again- as it is they're not worth thinking much about unless I need to intentionally overheal with a Cure I so I can have a flower for Divine Benison. Really sub-optimal and irritating, to say the least. I either have skills off CD or I don't, I know CDR is kind of a BIG DEAL but it doesn't feel beneficial in practice.
    AST Noct shields getting the slightest of nerfs, either potency or cost. Especially the Aspected Benefic version. No bat smacks, just a small slap on the wrist.
    SCH pet AI responsiveness improved, Selene ability buffs/reworks, and maybe a very slight cost reduction on Adlo and Succor. Not enough to make them spammable again but enough that less optimal players won't go OOM after a few casts. Seems a tad too punishing even if SCH is meant to be the "thinking player's healer".
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    Last edited by Hestzhyen; 09-26-2017 at 02:17 PM.

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    Aimori Duciel
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    I don't even know if I want Square to touch Healers anymore.. If they do change Healers I expect it to be an awful change.
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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Foxkid View Post
    Did they used to be cheaper I assume? I tend to try not to use them except for shielding or an actual group heal because my mana dies when I need the shielding.
    Relative to MP pools, their cost has almost doubled since pre-SB.
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    Last edited by Riyshn; 09-26-2017 at 03:14 PM.

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    Metsonm's Avatar
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    Met Rhukon
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    Have Lilies be a resource worth thinking about without making them RNG again- as it is they're not worth thinking much about unless I need to intentionally overheal with a Cure I so I can have a flower for Divine Benison. Really sub-optimal and irritating, to say the least. I either have skills off CD or I don't, I know CDR is kind of a BIG DEAL but it doesn't feel beneficial in practice.
    They binned the original Spear card because cooldown reduction was so weak.

    I still think lilies should give a speed buff. Not as much as Presence of Mind, maybe only like 5% at 3 or something, but that would probably give us more to think about. Does he REALLY need a shield or can I just heal and get 2 lilies rather than 1? Should I use Assize now or will the speed buff give me more damage before it's absolutely needed? Those sorts of questions.

    It will give us a reason to want to build up cures and play into the 'pure healer' hole they dug for us.
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  10. #10
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    NobleWinter's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Winter Gem
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Scholar needs a lot of love. I hope they find a way to make the entire class design more intuitive. It's functional now sort of but the abilities don't mesh well or even make sense like Dissipation and Deployment Tactics or the fact Selene has always been unfavored as not quite complete and utter trash but close. Astro and WHM both feel very logical and straightforward by contrast. I hope they bring Scholar the same treatment Bard received. New and improved but mostly improved.
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