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  1. #1
    Player
    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Everyone have 1 free teleport and another free teleport if registered a security token.
    Also free teleport if someone else in the party start the teleport (should be no problem with FC members)

    Quote Originally Posted by TWOxACROSS View Post
    Return is on a timer, and can only take you to one specific place; Reduced Rates actions prevents the use of more desirable actions; I'm not exactly familiar the numerous ways to get free teleport tickets; and the free teleport location is, like the Return, only accounts for one location. The concern is a legitimate one, after all, and not having an in-system way to prevent a new players' wallet from getting gutted when they want to make use of a house they were invited to is a little balking.
    Both, Return and the Free Teleport, will bring back the new player to Eorzea, where he pay normal teleport prices. If he can't even pay the normal prices then he should set a free teleport to a main city and use airship to travel within Eorzea.
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-04-2017 at 12:43 AM.

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    Phoenix Down
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Honestly, everyone should be using a security token. It keeps you safe and it gives you a free teleport location so I would highly encourage any new players to grab one. Especially since you can use the software token, it's pretty easy and available to everyone who has a smart phone (which is basically everyone) or a tablet. Just make sure to tell them that they should write down the emergency removal code for safe keeping just in case!

    Return is always a backup option and while it's not ideal perhaps, if they really can't spare the gil then it's there and a 15 minute cooldown isn't that bad. That being said, just completing the ARR main scenario should give them easily around 300k gil. I think they'll be ok~
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    Last edited by Mikki; 10-04-2017 at 04:18 AM.

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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Why do people keep quoting me to talk about completely different points than I addressed?

    I point out a simple factual correction regarding the number of quests needed, and get a reply about maximum teleport costs.

    I disagree with just one specific argument about the rest of the FC having money and repeatedly get replies about Return taking care of the returning problem (despite the fact that I'd said myself Return takes care of that problem).

    I've never said that getting back from an FC house in Shirogane would be a problem, though I did suggest a free option to get there in the first place would be nice. If after the five times I've said it before it's not clear yet, here it is again: Return takes care of new players' needs to get back to Eorzea after visiting an FC house in Shirogane. Why am I still getting arguments about that when I've never disputed it?

    A point was brought up earlier that the FC itself has plenty of gil and that should be able to take care of any teleporting problems for new players. THAT is the point that I've disputed. But that point has nothing to do with the Return skill. It has to do with the difference between an FC having gil and a new player who just joined having access to that gil.
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 80
    You're not understanding their point either, no one is talking about gil sitting in the FC chest where the new player has no access to, the point is ask any person who is online for 1k gil to tp out of the house, because people in the FC are bound to have more than 1k gil, if an entire FC can't spare 1k gil for a newbie then it's time to move on to another FC with people who are less cheap about pocket change.
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    Kaylee Frye
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    If there are any new people on Leviathan that this becomes an issue for, please feel free to /tell me in game and I will give you enough gil to solve the problem.
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    Last edited by Zarabeth; 10-04-2017 at 08:50 AM. Reason: I type badly

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    Eva Gamirdren
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 100
    I don't feel like this is a big deal. I've got a low level alt that hit 30k quickly from the first time Guildhest bonuses and the Challenge Log without ever attempting to make money (they're just at joining a Grand Company in the story). That's plenty to cover a few teleports as you start out the game.
    I can't see running out of gil unless they do nothing but teleport to and from the FC house without progressing at all and even if they did that Return and borrowing money from FC friends are still options.

    New players can also get 99 aetheryte tickets from the Recruit a Friend Campaign if they sub.
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    Cait Zilla
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 70
    As it has already been said, in case of being stuck with no money: /return
    It's a 15 min wait only at worst.

    Return is free, and teleporting to the FC in Shirogane from an ARR area should cost around 250 gils. And then there is also Favorite Teleports cost reduction, and even Free teleport destination of those with Security Key.

    So I don't think it will be an issue. It's just a temporary annoyance for low new level members would will probably not teleport as much to the FC house in their early levels. Fortunatly these low levels go fast.
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    Mistress Mist
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    I think the OP is just an extremely considerate person. I had a friend once who, thinking about left-handed folks, asked for subway gates to have some gates with left-side slots for the tickets after observing the occasional momentary confusion when a left-hander instinctively slotted the fare card on the left side and the gate on the left opened. Practical constraints notwithstanding, the thoughtfulness is endearing.

    To OP, TWOXACROSS, it's certainly something for the QoL list. In the interim, we can consider having some faith that the community (FC) and perhaps humanity can overcome minor annoyances and help each other and / or adapt
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    Corchaine Destrega
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    Siren
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Maleficent View Post
    To OP, TWOXACROSS, it's certainly something for the QoL list. In the interim, we can consider having some faith that the community (FC) and perhaps humanity can overcome minor annoyances and help each other and / or adapt
    Thanks. Yeah, there's things we can do in the meantime, as is the workarounds people have mentioned, but ideally that shouldn't be the solution. Hopefully Square has thought about this, and just hasn't bothered to mention it because it's not as exciting as the other new features. I could see them having a ferry that takes people back to Limsa Lominsa for a negligible fee (as most ferries have), because at least it gets them back to Eorzea without any sort of expense or time-related constraints.
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