New Players Teleporting from Shirogane Housing

[Jijifli]

Is there any way to address this concern...?

Let's pretend we live in a world with the return skill.

The fc likely has funds if they have a house, specially in a SB zone. If they couldn't spare 1k to get their newbie friend back to questing, they'd likely be lying.

But you see, we do live in a world with return. They can go back for free. Sure, 15 minute cooldown, but how often are you teleporting to your house to make 15 mintues too long?

[TWOxACROSS]

Let's pretend we live in a world with the return skill.

The fc likely has funds if they have a house, specially in a SB zone. If they couldn't spare 1k to get their newbie friend back to questing, they'd likely be lying.

But you see, we do live in a world with return. They can go back for free. Sure, 15 minute cooldown, but how often are you teleporting to your house to make 15 mintues too long?

No need to be condescending about it. It's still entirely unreasonable for a feature in the game to then require depending on others to make up for the loss of gil, and it's fundamentally clunky to just say "wull, you can just Return and then teleport." It doesn't matter what we can do to counteract it, it's the fact that we need to counteract it in the first place that's a problem. It's almost as bad as the fact that we have so many places to teleport to now by 4.0, and yet still only three favored destinations to make things mildly cheaper.

[Jijifli]

No need to be condescending about it. It's still entirely unreasonable for a feature in the game to then require depending on others to make up for the loss of gil, and it's fundamentally clunky to just say "wull, you can just Return and then teleport." It doesn't matter what we can do to counteract it, it's the fact that we need to counteract it in the first place that's a problem. It's almost as bad as the fact that we have so many places to teleport to now by 4.0, and yet still only three favored destinations to make things mildly cheaper.

So time to a scenario that's been possible since before even SB.

It's unreasonable for teleports to cost? Your issue only effects new players, who have to have had connections to at least two locations. By that point, you're probably level 5. If you make a mistake, a player can bail you out, and just mention that they should be more careful with their teleports because the costs add up. Will a new player be sad they can't just go to the fc house whenever? Sure. Like how I'm sad anything costs gil or time.

Also, about the favored "issue." You get a home point, three discount locations, and one freebie to go along with that if you beef up your security. What are you doing that's requiring you to need more? I just set it to three places I'm likely to teleport, then my home to Kugane. I don't have teleport cost issues, and I don't even use the tickets square gave me because it's really not an issue. Your fc can help you. That's what an FC is meant for, right? A group to players to help and play together? Not just some afk pool of heat of battle?

[TWOxACROSS]

So time to a scenario that's been possible since before even SB.

It's unreasonable for teleports to cost?

I mean...maybe? It's a useless money sink, but that's not the point.

Your issue only effects new players,

I would have thought that was obvious. As a new player, it's going to be a little while into 2.0 before spending 500-1000 gil moving back and forth between Shirogane wouldn't feel like a huge dent to their wallets. Regardless of what solutions we can figure out as players, we shouldn't need to find workarounds in a system they (half-)made.

Also, about the favored "issue." You get a home point, three discount locations, and one freebie to go along with that if you beef up your security. What are you doing that's requiring you to need more?

I'm not doing anything, it's the fact that three favored destinations and a free return made sense back when we only had three city-states with a handful of aetherytes, one of them being an endgame town. At that point, we paid for the convenience of teleporting to non-citystates. Then Heavensward came out, and we had a new citystate, but no new favored destination, then we got Stormblood, which gave us a bunch of new aetherytes and a citystate on the other side of the map that maxes out the teleportation fee, and we still got no new favored destinations. Our list of destinations keeps growing, but our ability to discount some of those has not.

I just set it to three places I'm likely to teleport, then my home to Kugane. I don't have teleport cost issues, and I don't even use the tickets square gave me because it's really not an issue.

How very nice for you, a player who has gotten to the endgame three times and amassed a small fortune...unlike new players, that this concern is about.

Your fc can help you. That's what an FC is meant for, right? A group to players to help and play together? Not just some afk pool of heat of battle?

Sure the FC can help, but the FC helping its members should not be the solution to an in-game feature.

[Vahlnir]

Considering gil is easy to come by...I don't see the problem. And as someone mentioned already, they can use tickets if they're keen on saving every last gil they can. In the end, not really an issue. Waiting 15 min to use Return is also an option. Just find something to do in the mean time, or afk for the duration. Whatever works.

[FoxyAreku]

Use Return.

Set favorite destinations.

Set a free destination with a one time password.

Realize that 999 gil isn't even large enough to be considered pocket change, even for new players.

This is a non-issue.