>Also if their idea of SAM and BLM is to be the selfish dps where they strenght is their big dmg, why not simply making them have Big self dps? I know you say that utility is dmg but there is a point where having a big number can ovetake that OR be a reasonable alternative and if SE is hellbent on this they should deliver.

The sweet spot would be having enough personal damage that you would be doing as much raid DPS or more than any other potential DPS in your slot, but not enough that you could actually bring multiples of the class and have it be a good thing. Although stacking damage buffs are so potent, that would probably have to be an extreme amount anyways.