Black Mage

[Neela]

And about if other classes being underperforming, overnerfed, yes they did quit. Just not the game. With Summoner being in a poor state at SB launch, there was almost nobody playing one as I noticed. Same with other classes in past patches as well.
Now that Summoners is the highest Caster DPS, I see so many Summoners around on server and in dungeons.

Well i already noticed that the ones who stick to their mains in worst or overbuffed moments at all arme very rare in this community. There is always a "worst" cls, never understood that most of the com chose it's cls by meta and numbers instead of lore and personal likings. Btw switching cls waiting for buff/fixing is still a whole different thing than quiting the whole game flaming devs and company, which was actually the point i answared to ^^

edit: but im totally with ya about fflogs i just hate that it steers everything nowadays yes indeed. but it's on u if u wanna please the com and follow the trend or if u just give a shit about this convention or what people think and wait until the situation gets better by buffs/adjustments. People may say "good call smn" but those people should he aware that i stick to smn since 3 years and personally dont give a fck if im an undergog or masterrace right now - im just a summoner. You seem even, would be sad if you would quit without at least waiting for the lets say first-try adjustments to Blm soon. : /

[Altera]

Well i already noticed that the ones who stick to their mains in worst or overbuffed moments at all arme very rare in this community. There is always a "worst" cls, never understood that most of the com chose it's cls by meta and numbers instead of lore and personal likings. Btw switching cls waiting for buff/fixing is still a whole different thing than quiting the whole game flaming devs and company, which was actually the point i answared to ^^

edit: but im totally with ya about fflogs i just hate that it steers everything nowadays yes indeed. but it's on u if u wanna please the com and follow the trend or if u just give a shit about this convention or what people think and wait until the situation gets better by buffs/adjustments. People may say "good call smn" but those people should he aware that i stick to smn since 3 years and personally dont give a fck if im an undergog or masterrace right now - im just a summoner. You seem even, would be sad if you would quit without at least waiting for the lets say first-try adjustments to Blm soon. : /

I am just Vote with my wallet kinda person, like with EA Games, Activision and Ubisoft. Not purchased a single game from them in over 5 years until I see the companies changes their views on the lootbox greed.
Back in 1.0 when I first started playing XIV, I played all classes to 50, and out of every class, I found BLM to be the most interesting and fun class to play as well as Lorewise, plus I love thunderstorm in real life, so since BLM has Thunder, I play BLM.
RDM I also tried, but did not like its playstyle at all. I also suck at tank and healing, but also I dont like that either. I prefer dishing out damage and make bosses go byebye xD

I am gonna continue lvl my other classes, as I cannot do anything much else in game now, and wait for 4.2 to roll out, and if no changes. I am going to shift my subscription from XIV to WOW, and give the game a fair chance. At least there will be more stuff to do contentwise in WOW and Unholy DK than XIV and BLM atm :/

[NovaUltimatum]

I'm really getting annoyed with the EU community thinking they can't take BLMs for Neoexdeath. Please fix this job Yoshi...

[Altera]

I'm really getting annoyed with the EU community thinking they can't take BLMs for Neoexdeath. Please fix this job Yoshi...

Yeah I have seen countless of these in PF myself. And when I join the ones who has forgotten to leave out BLM, I get removed, and when i update the PF list, VOILA the NO BLM is up

[NYCAcimStudent]

Yeah I have seen countless of these in PF myself. And when I join the ones who has forgotten to leave out BLM, I get removed, and when i update the PF list, VOILA the NO BLM is up

This was so awesome that I had to share it! Thank you. I actually bought FFXIV last month so that I could play as a Black Mage

[zuzu-bq]

I'm really getting annoyed with the EU community thinking they can't take BLMs for Neoexdeath. Please fix this job Yoshi...

It's not that they can't. It's more of: the chance of a BLM player not letting you clear is higher than any other job.

@Altera
It's not 3rd party's fault only. You'll oftenly find more BLM players lacking than anyone else. And when you don't know who is joining your party, why not clean up the chances of someone bad joining by locking that job? Good BLM players can mostly play other jobs anyways.

[Lina_Slayer]

The problem for PFs is not that on 75th percentile+ BLM is 3rd or 4th on personal dps (and more than likely 8th on total dps contribution) if you have on a random PF a 75th percentile BLM he may as well be one of your best members even if the class is subpar, the problem is that at 10th percentile for example BLM has the second worst personal dps (only beating RDM which is invaluable on bad parties anyway) so if you are pugging you are much more likely to get a bad BLM than a good one and see your group dps sink, not to mention it is almost DRG level in terms of dying making it even more undesirable.

As for people blaming ACT, fflogs and data collection softwares in general, sorry but it's like shooting the messenger, the data collection softwares only expose the complete mess that is the current game balance, BLM is only one in a list of problems that includes, but is not limited to things like the most OP dps class in the game also being the only one capable of threat control (put Shadewalker on cross role please!!!!), DRG and NIN being so much better than their melee peers it is laughable, DRK being worse at everything than the other tanks with 0 redeeming qualities, the mess that is Disenbowel, 4 dps class (MNK, RDM, BLM and SAM) added together have almost 4 times less Ultimate clears than NIN and 3 times less than SMN, when the game is this poorly balanced you can't blame anyone but the devs and if this mess is not talked about in the LL tomorrow, I will start to lose faith.

[Remedi]

Frankly I can say that anyone in the PF can be terrible a drag the party down and has been so true that I simply don't care that much anymore.
I honestly don't understand why the conversation shifts so easily from beign valid only on high level play to pug level play.

If we talk about high end play yes BLM has problems and is not optimal, but if we talk about pug play then frankly it's a FFA mates, you can be sure that NIN won't use shades or smokes, uptimes on buff will be less than optimal and that probably bosses will go down regardless.

Does it means everything is fine? Hell no but let's be reasonable guys.

[Llugen]

I've still been lurking, by the way, and I would like to point out that someone who said increasing BLM's damage would make it broken in 4 man content is probably absolutely right. What I might suggest is let Enochian give a damage increase by a certain percentage per person in the party in range (so, like a reverse-BRD song), so it is inherently stronger in 8 man content than in 4 man.

The biggest issue with SMN at 4.0 launch in my opinion was that Tri-bind felt stupid to use for aoe damage in medium-sized mobs, and spamming Ruin III in a mob of 4 felt really underwhelming (same thing with SCH). Currently, SMN is insanely powerful in dungeons.

It's not enough to "quit the game" that my main job is gimp, but it's definitely frustrating. I am enjoying playing SMN, and as I get better and better at it, it is more and more fun, but it's still annoying that the situation is the way that it is. Should they decide to fix BLM in a meaningful way, I will certainly move back to it.


Also, congratulations to the whopping two BLMs who have cleared unending on the job so far, out of almost 40 total groups. Note also how far they are behind the SMNs damage-wise.

[Remedi]

Well considering the teraflare phase that should come to no1 surprise, that is any dot class wet dream phase tbh.

and Tbh I would include that in the ok scenario, I was more surprised in the first 2 phases results tbh