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    Quote Originally Posted by TsuKoj View Post
    Ok, no insult meant, but I've seen this mentioned a few times already, but how does this issue even come up? I have a hard time imagining ever running into this problem.
    like when I transpose, im in ice astral ..

    insteasd of hard casting fire 3 under one astral ice, I'd like to sharpcast fire 1to get fast into three fire astral, without losing enochian / foul g
    build up
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    No offense but you could at that point use swift
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    ofc, if I have swift up..., or want to save it
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    Yes but the point is when progressing ina fight as a BLM you aim to plan your CDs usage, granted if we could have a 30 secs duration on firestarter and thunderfcloud that would be a great Qol, but honestly in the rankings of our current problems the one you bring up is actually very low tier imho since you can already play around with it
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    using fire 1or 2 after transpose or in any ice astral should keep enochian up, but it doesnt..

    and imo it is an issue, that you have use fire 3 after transposing, or you lose enochian / foul build up.., that "hard cast" fire 3 after transpose is a pain, while after fire 1 there's at least a chance to proc

    not saying losing enochian under those circumstances is the "biggest" blm issue, but it is an issue and annoying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    using fire 1or 2 after transpose or in any ice astral should keep enochian up, but it doesnt..

    and imo it is an issue, that you have use fire 3 after transposing, or you lose enochian / foul build up.., that "hard cast" fire 3 after transpose is a pain, while after fire 1 there's at least a chance to proc

    not saying losing enochian under those circumstances is the "biggest" blm issue, but it is an issue and annoying
    It's not an ussie because it's how astral fire and umbral ice have always worked, they changed enochian to be tied to your timers which means that it come up with some positives and some negatives one of which is that, you either adapt or don't

    This can be a problem of yours but honestly I don't consider it deal breaking like the fact that we have less dps than a support job and changing that of enochian won't fix it for sure
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    How much time would you honestly save on dps if you could fire 1 from ui1 and keep enochian, versus just hardcasting fire 3? You're using roughly the same amount of time when gcd is taken into account unless I'm mistaken.
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    if you proc a fire 1 or sharpcast it, its faster ... and your more mobile

    found myself a few times, after needing to traspose into ice astral, that a fire 1 (proc or sharpcast) would help... (like after a phase change and have movement coming in).., hard casting fire 3 can be a pain..

    dont see, why enochian a has to fall off nomatter what, unless you cast fire 3

    ofc, swifcast helps, but dont want to have to use it aftet transposing (prefer to use a sharpcast, it it would work)
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    Are you really saving time though? You're losing a whole gcd for the sake of "mobility" which, if that's your concern, you should be using swift and triple because they're there for mobility's sake.
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    only use/save tripple-cast for heavy meachnics or the opener/pot

    try to save (normal) swiftcast for real emergencies or certain big mechanics/movements..

    but extending procs to 30 sec could possibly be more reliable for mechanics, and could maybe use swiftcast more often like after transposing (+ B4 , since often need mana tick ups after a transpose)

    blm could use fixes and QoL in quite a few areas
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