Black Mage

[Alkel]

I see many good ideas here to fix BLM here and i hope SE will read some and maybe use them.

Atm, i must say, BLM is a dying job.
Myself, i recently switched to RDM and even if im still learning the job, i must say: OMG, i feel so free now! Playing a job with flexibility and utility change everything.

I dont even see the point of playing BLM again: My group hate when im on BLM cuz they have to adapt to the turret position, i have no utility and despite the punishing rotation, there is no reward at the end.
With some practise on RDM im 100% sure i will have about the same DPS but without the punishing rotation and with utility.

So yes, BLM need some serious fix and its not only a question of DPS gain.

[Llugen]

SMN has Tri-disaster and believe you me, it's far better. The summoner rotation physically casts dots once every two minutes. That's practically nothing. In fact, I feel like it would make BLM even more unique from SMN (and RDM) with a dot that functions differently than them or any other job.

[Maero]

And yet the summoner community is still complaining their job is broken. Granted smn is not perfect but it did get much love (like it did in HW)
Blm does get buffs but it always just seems for short periods of time and then they buff other jobs and blm feels like it was steamrolled over
Players were saying Blm always get love because it is Yoshis main... i certainly do not feel like it gets this so called "love", lol

[Llugen]

At this point anyone who is complaining that summoner is broken is just flat out wrong. If you need proof, check my log page.

Also I'm not sure how additive dots would be a problem, especially since it's a proc-based dot and would cap at 60 seconds. No other dots in the game are proc based (that I can think of), so I see no incentive for other classes to be clamoring for it.

[Remedi]

If this point anyone who is complaining that summoner is broken is just flat out wrong. If you need proof, check my log page.

Also I'm not sure how additive dots would be a problem, especially since it's a proc-based dot and would cap at 60 seconds. No other dots in the game are proc based (that I can think of), so I see no incentive for other classes to be clamoring for it.

Clarification you mean 60 seconds as a damage cap or total duration? Because I thought you meant like Ignite of fire mage from wow, but if you mean like Pandemic from warlock well that's another thing but I still think would fit a dot based job better

Honestly the scatche proposal of extending AF/UI and extending procs to 30 sec would probably serve much better AND actually would ease some problems on the lower level, which is what SE really wants to do

[Ashenspire]

Additive DoTs will bring the issue of how do you deal with a stronger DoT being on there than the one you're about to apply? I really don't want to go back to the "a stronger version of this spell is already affecting the target" or whatever. You can't just keep your snapshotted DoT rolling, that'd be broken.

[Llugen]

Additive DoTs will bring the issue of how do you deal with a stronger DoT being on there than the one you're about to apply? I really don't want to go back to the "a stronger version of this spell is already affecting the target" or whatever. You can't just keep your snapshotted DoT rolling, that'd be broken.

Now that there is no raging strikes on BLM, this issue seems pretty small. In fact I would just flat out say adding to it keeps its original strength as long as you can keep it up. Sounds like a sweet deal to me.

[Solyra]

Caster as a position seems to be in a very good spot right now. You can take RDM for prog/clears, SMN for speedrun/damage, and BLM if you want to be excluded from PF's and raid groups.

BLM simply requires too much adjustment for the party and you need to be much greedier to be worth it over just playing any other job. Even with this, you bring about the raw damage as a MCH/NIN/DRG performing at your same skill level and then MCH/NIN/DRG press their raid buff button twice.

[OgruMogru]

While TC refreshing stacks would be kinda cool, I wouldn't want to depend on such an unreliable system to refresh. Especially not with TC procs being on such a short timer currently.

[zuzu-bq]

While TC refreshing stacks would be kinda cool, I wouldn't want to depend on such an unreliable system to refresh. Especially not with TC procs being on such a short timer currently.

You wouldn't need to rely on it though? You'll still depend on Fire and Tier III spells as your best refreshers. Actually, the current best stack refresher is a Firestarter which is a random proc so why would TC be unreliable? Specially when Sharping Thunder tends to be a bigger damage gain.

Honestly the scatche proposal of extending AF/UI and extending procs to 30 sec would probably serve much better AND actually would ease some problems on the lower level, which is what SE really wants to do

Scathe refreshing would solve no problem, unless you go Astral Fire with full MP by getting the perfect MP tick you can't even Scathe without trading it for a Fire IV. By itself this would change nothing, if this happens and MP ticks issues are fixed or gone entirely it would be good. Actually, fixing MP ticks related problems would make Scathe already useful even without refreshing stacks.