Black Mage

[Alexalibur]

Yeah. RDM is just much more attractive in comparison to BLM. Not longer than yesterday I was told to fight Susano as RDM instead of BLM because the former is simply much more beneficial to the party and BLM, and a lot more welcoming to learning/progression parties. I love BLM, I think it's a great job in a good place, but the trend of being told to switch is not fun.

[zuzu-bq]

Despite RDM being more wanted, unless you're expecting deaths or is going to a new fight and if you like and play both go BLM. They can beat RDM's embolden buff to party damage with their pure output. Which shows raw damage jobs can work. We just don't do enough to compete with rangeds while they all benefit massively on Disembowel. Actually, Disembowel alone is the source of most of the game's balance issues.

Also, if the trend is constantly being told to not play a certain job. You should reflect and realize that job is not fine or in a good place either.

[Alexalibur]

Embolden is not exactly what I was talking about. Mostly it was the Verraise that simply puts BLM at a disadvantage when learning, therefore making it harder to learn/progress for the party without one, and harder to practice as a BLM because you have to fight and see the best times to move and burst. Not asking for another raise on BLM or a raise be removed from RDM, just had to point out a problem I have with the caster comparison.

[Neela]

...but the trend of being told to switch is not fun.

yeah I can feel you - but the difference is I won't give a shit...

never was a friend of paternalism. if i join a random grp for either farm or raid I join as my favorite cls or the cls im in the mood for - if anyone starts do "organize" me im out as fast as I can run. cls lockouts or (wannabe-) advices are just stupid.

anybody ever heard of a dd who argued for a certain off-heal or off-tank cls in a random grp? no? why should I switch my dd cls than? just because someone I don't know and probably will never see again wants to save some secs on a random run? no way...

[Galvuu]

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I play almost exclusively Bard for progression and let me tell you- it would've been way harder to clear O4S the first few times with Black Mage.
It's not even close. The Minuet Troubadour for the Almagest right after Omega, the Paeon Troubadour for Neverwhere at 6 stacks and the refreshes+raid dps increases are incredibly clutch.
Someone got hit by emptiness before Light and Darkness? Have a Palisade and he'll live. Scholar is gonna deploy Adlo for an Almagest and something happened and we're not topped off? Let me Mine the Warrior. Someone with weakness for meteors? I'm at 5k MP, let me Foe real quick.
I have an unending love for Black Mage, but realistically I know I'm setting us all back if I play it most of the time, and I can't do it. I can't drag 7 people I consider my friends into failure for two more weeks because of the fact I love Black Mage.
And that feels bad (especially because I hate the swingy, rng nature of Bard). I can't just "not give a shit" about the friends I play with :/

[Lelila38]

Giving this a bump!

We need to stay vocal if we ever want our issues to be heard.

[Venur]

SE created a game with a role named utility without creating room for it in group. So they ended taking the DPS spot. Basicaly this game meta is:
Tank,Healer and utility.

As long as this game will keep the 4players group and 10 players raid mentality it wont change much I fear.

For balance sake it would be sad for utility class if they would both deal less dps and not enough utility to make for it.

So we are stock with pure DPS like SAM and BM beeing laging behind since they are all about DPS.

Dungeon groups should be 6 players ( at very least 5 ).
Raid should be 14ppl or more (very least 12).

Then FF XIV would be in a more healthy place for none tank/healer players.

[Neela]

thats why I said "random grps" - if you play with a static or friends communication about a setup is just natural. but even there everybody should always play the class he/she enjoys the most and not what any "world firsts" grp set up as meta. you won't get used to your Blm if you take the easy way shifting to a no brainer cls. How so ever its kinda ironic that Blms seems to be near the next "lockout" and Smns are gaining there comeback... strange world - after everybody said Blm is the 2nd best DD after Sam for sure... ^^'

[popotaro]

I just hope BLM gets some buffs at some point in time. BLM is BAE.

I mean, if even Yoshida recognized that BLM are gonna have a hard time with the upcoming content, maybe we can hope to get something soon..

[Neela]

I just hope BLM gets some buffs at some point in time. BLM is BAE.

what do you want them to do exactly? RDM is mobile by his dualcasts, Smn by aetherskills, dots & egi - but what do u expect SE to do with BLM? There aren't that much possibilities to buff the Blm aside in turning up his raw power... if you make him kinda mobile how would you do that?... its not that he would lockout both of the other caster (again...). : /