What if casters had element resistance debuffs?

[Joe777]

As it sits right now there are debuffs for slash, pierce, and blunt resistance for melee DPS and Tanks. But what if casters had debuffs for resistance to the elements? Black Mage could do fire resistance debuff for example. Imagine the added utility casters would get from this!

[HyoMinPark]

That would only be effective for BLMs, RDMs, and DPSing WHMs, since other magic is classified as unaspected. It would probably be cumbersome to have to change the effects each time you switched to a different type of magic. BLM would probably be the only one that would benefit from them for an extended period of time, given how RDM rotation swaps between different Ver spells, and SMN is completely unaspected. Same for SCH and AST.

A better alternative to something like this would be just a sweeping "magic resistance down" debuff.

[Joe777]

That would only be effective for BLMs, RDMs, and DPSing WHMs, since other magic is classified as unaspected. It would probably be cumbersome to have to change the effects each time you switched to a different type of magic. BLM would probably be the only one that would benefit from them for an extended period of time, given how RDM rotation swaps between different Ver spells, and SMN is completely unaspected. Same for SCH and AST.

A better alternative to something like this would be just a sweeping "magic resistance down" debuff.

Actually some melee jobs have "magic" elemental attacks too, especially Ninja. Bard has it too in attacks such as wind/stormbite.

[HyoMinPark]

Actually some melee jobs have "magic" elemental attacks too, especially Ninja. Bard has it too in attacks such as wind/stormbite.

And for BRD to benefit (or even NIN to), there would have to be specific debuffs up for each attack. Which, again, would get cumbersome to have to manage. Besides, BRD is already reliant enough on a piercing resistance down rebuff that only DRG can provide. I'd rather not them be reliant on a "wind resistance down" debuff for higher DoT damage. NIN ninjutsu are only used once every 30 seconds unless you Kassatsu or Hide in the middle of a fight (the former has a CD and the latter not recommended at all), so again. BLM would be the only job that would consistently see any difference from specific elemental debuffs because of their Astral Fire rotation.

Again, better alternative would be a sweeping "magic resistance down" debuff, not individual "fire resistance down"/"water resistance down"/"thunder resistance down"/etc..

[Joe777]

And for BRD to benefit (or even NIN to), there would have to be specific debuffs up for each attack. Which, again, would get cumbersome to have to manage. Besides, BRD is already reliant enough on a piercing resistance down rebuff that only DRG can provide. I'd rather not them be reliant on a "wind resistance down" debuff for higher DoT damage. NIN ninjutsu are only used once every 30 seconds unless you Kassatsu or Hide in the middle of a fight (the former has a CD and the latter not recommended at all), so again. BLM would be the only job that would consistently see any difference from specific elemental debuffs because of their Astral Fire rotation.

Again, better alternative would be a sweeping "magic resistance down" debuff, not individual "fire resistance down"/"water resistance down"/"thunder resistance down"/etc..

By that logic though the current debuffs for slash pierce and blunt should just be weapon resistance down instead of individual.

[HyoMinPark]

By that logic though the current debuffs for slash pierce and blunt should just be weapon resistance down instead of individual.

I wasn't arguing about those debuffs, and they don't have anything to do with what I said. Having 6 different elemental debuffs would be entirely way too cumbersome for casters to manage (compare to RDM who, if they wanted specific elemental resistances down, would have to apply each specific debuffs basically every other attack), and they would really only benefit a singular caster for any extended period of time ("fire resistance down" and BLM in Astral Fire). As it stands with the physical debuffs, yes only MNK benefits from blunt, but the entirety of a BRD/MCH/DRG rotation benefits from piercing, and the entirety of NIN/SAM/WAR/DRK/PLD benefit from slashing, not just a couple GCDs before having to switch to another debuff, which is what you would have to do if there were individual elemental debuffs.

If players want a "magical resistance down", it would be much better (and much easier to manage) to do a sweeping "magical resistance down" rather than have to switch debuffs based on your next GCD. Plus, SMN/SCH/AST would benefit from that as well, all of which have unaspected magical damage.

[popotaro]

I'd like to get some raid utility as BaeLM. Like I dunno.. Making it so Ley Lines give 50% of the buff the BaeLM gets to anyone standing in it or something in those lines.. Give us something Yoshida T.T

[Waliel]

I'd like to get some raid utility as BaeLM. Like I dunno.. Making it so Ley Lines give 50% of the buff the BaeLM gets to anyone standing in it or something in those lines.. Give us something Yoshida T.T

Please no. Never. I'd rather have it knock anyone 20 yalms away if they dare to approach it.

[Frizze]

Please no. Never. I'd rather have it knock anyone 20 yalms away if they dare to approach it.

Thatd be fun in a "mass chaos" sense the first time you got to a boss in a 24 man, 6 BLMs drop Ley Lines roughly simultaneously, and the rest of the party pinballs around for a min. Dont imagine id get many more raid invites after that though...

[NovaLevossida]

No point in elemental resistance debuffs since I spam fire on Ifrit, don't care that Shiva is of ice when I get my MP back, and Ramuh procs Thundercloud regardless. It's niche and would serve little. A magic resistance debuff or magic attack up buff would make more sense. And if the aim of this is to increase BLM's effectiveness or appeal to group compositions, I'd rather they just buff up its damage so that SMN isn't outdamaging it with combat raise and raid buffs in its kit.

Please no. Never. I'd rather have it knock anyone 20 yalms away if they dare to approach it.

I actually mentioned last night in-game that I wanted a reverse Rescue to knock people out of my leylines.